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![]() this is am much better thread now in my opinion. i agree that in my opinion the victory is technologically superior and that an argument could be made that by parts alone the harley is equally technologically developed. i suppose i have mistaken performance for technology. that is my error.
i agree the japanese should never have resorted to stepping back and building a pushrod engine to copy harley. and yes the japanese succeed by copying and doing it better. i dont dislike harley davidson motorcycles at all. i like them. i do have a problem with blind allegience. |
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For a classic look it would be the Stratoliner, for a drag cruiser it would be the M109R. I do love the looks of the Victory, the big dresser?
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![]() "Well, if I were to buy a new Cruiser I'd probably get the Victory myself."
So is that at the top of the list of bikes you will never own, or is that the Buell with the 'real motor' at the top??
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![]() "I do love the looks of the Victory, the big dresser?"
I'd LOVE to see you drop 20 large on that thing!
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![]() Yeah it would be between that and the RSV4. Wonder which one would win my business.
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Thats funny I was going to post up that one to you last night. But I didnt want to be mean. Thats your job I guess, peace nat!
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Not to quibble, but "fly by wire," as I know it wasn't implemented on any production bikes until very recently. The '09 R1 is the first Japanese bike with it to my knowledge; it might be the only 1 in the Big 4 lineup at this point.
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Fibber! You LOVE to Quibble!
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![]() well you might be right as i was faking it on that one. lol! i think the competition that the victory brings to the marketplace is healthy. why do you think harley made the chassis improvements they did? they know the aging baby boomers arent going to be buying bikes forever and the younger generation of riders have performance demands and they are moving to meeting them. good on them. there are alot of exciting motorcycles on the market right now and plenty on the horizon.
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![]() I don't know how much of HD's design and development was driven by competition. Keep in mind that until 2005; people were waiting in line to buy their bikes, and paying over retail to get them. HD has a long history of incremental improvement rather than radical change. The '09 FLH frame upgrade was about as big a single leap forward as they've made since they started putting shocks on the rear end of their bikes.
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