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Old 10-07-2009, 08:18 AM   #11
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Nice bike. I could see myself owning one of these someday. Comfortable, nice looking and only a little over 300 pounds. Seems to have decent performance from that little single too. There are rumors that Triumph is/was working on a 500cc bike in this vein. That would interest me.
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Old 10-07-2009, 08:23 AM   #12
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Love to see a scramble version of this bike. I'd pay $200 more for high pipes and slightly longer suspension. It'd be a great camp ground toy.
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Old 10-07-2009, 09:33 AM   #13
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We knew at least one of you malcontents would comment on this. You cherry picked the dissimilar bikes from the early '70s rather than note the similar ones (inline-Fours) a little later on:

- Kawi Z1, KZ650, KZ750, Z1000
- Suzuki GS550, GS750, GS850, GS1000.
- Honda CB350, CB400, CB550, CB750
- Yamaha was the most independent thinking, but it still had bikes like the XS1100, FJ600 and Radian, plus 550, 650, 750 and 900cc four-cylinder models.

If there wasn't a lot of common elements in the '70s and '80s, then why are we all familiar with the term UJM?
And things differ today, how?
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Old 10-07-2009, 11:02 AM   #14
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Everyone needs to calm down here! It's not like Cruz Yurup dissed your Mom or anything!
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Old 10-07-2009, 01:09 PM   #15
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We knew at least one of you malcontents would comment on this. You cherry picked the dissimilar bikes from the early '70s rather than note the similar ones (inline-Fours) a little later on:

- Kawi Z1, KZ650, KZ750, Z1000
- Suzuki GS550, GS750, GS850, GS1000.
- Honda CB350, CB400, CB550, CB750
- Yamaha was the most independent thinking, but it still had bikes like the XS1100, FJ600 and Radian, plus 550, 650, 750 and 900cc four-cylinder models.

If there wasn't a lot of common elements in the '70s and '80s, then why are we all familiar with the term UJM?
I get your drift. If we think of UJMs as inline-4 Japanese they are very similar. But if the definition of UJM is any Japanese from -70s the correct term surely is "amazingly different".

... and we must add to the list the key players Gold Wing (4-cyl 4-stroke boxer) and Yamaha XS750 (3-cyl 4-stroke). Who could ever forget the howling noise of the three-winged Yammie abruptly ending up in a complete engine meltdown due to too shallow oil pan?

- cruiz-euro
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Old 10-08-2009, 07:42 AM   #16
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I knew this bike would be a hit. If it could be modified like a Royal Enfield with the Cafe kit and others, it could become very popular among people who would like to customize it. Although it does look nice now.
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Old 10-08-2009, 10:30 AM   #17
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Darned CA emissions strike again. I liked this bike when I first saw it... but then again, I actually bought a GB500 new back in the day and later got a W650 so I am definitely a fan of simple light-weight bikes and have a soft spot for spoked wheels.

Given the bike's fuel injection, is the lack of CARB certification really a question of emissions or a cost-saving move on the part of Suzuki due to the cost of testing?
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Old 10-08-2009, 11:24 AM   #18
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Darned CA emissions strike again. I liked this bike when I first saw it... but then again, I actually bought a GB500 new back in the day and later got a W650 so I am definitely a fan of simple light-weight bikes and have a soft spot for spoked wheels.

Given the bike's fuel injection, is the lack of CARB certification really a question of emissions or a cost-saving move on the part of Suzuki due to the cost of testing?
The usual issue for Cali certification is evaporative emissions. I'd expect Suzuki to bolt on a charcoal canister soon so it can sell these in the country's biggest market.
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The usual issue for Cali certification is evaporative emissions. I'd expect Suzuki to bolt on a charcoal canister soon so it can sell these in the country's biggest market.
I do have to laugh a bit at those charcoal canisters on bikes. Their purpose is to capture evaporative emissions while the tank is being filled with gas, yet I've yet to find a motorcycle gas tank that can accomodate the filler neck from a gas pump. It's usually necessary to hold the California emissions "bellows" device up with one hand to switch the pump on... thus leaving a gap between the pump and the tank and negating the benefit of the evaporative controls system. Am I missing something here?
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Old 10-08-2009, 12:01 PM   #20
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I do have to laugh a bit at those charcoal canisters on bikes. Their purpose is to capture evaporative emissions while the tank is being filled with gas, yet I've yet to find a motorcycle gas tank that can accomodate the filler neck from a gas pump. It's usually necessary to hold the California emissions "bellows" device up with one hand to switch the pump on... thus leaving a gap between the pump and the tank and negating the benefit of the evaporative controls system. Am I missing something here?
Just because you put the cap on the tank, doesn't mean the fuel has stopped evaporating.
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