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Old 09-18-2009, 01:04 PM   #11
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They're good bikes, I see a few of them on the road here. Don't know if I'd ever trade my HD for one but I think they're nice enough and seem to be built to last. Can't say I care much what Sonny Barger rides though, last I read he was going on about how great his ST1100 was. I guess it adds weight to the brand though like Buzz says
What? You aren't impressed by the opinion of the leader of a major crime syndicate? What's wrong with you?

Maybe the next ad campaign we see will headline: "Pablo Escobar recommends the Lincoln Navigator over the Suburban." That would make as much sense.
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Old 09-18-2009, 01:07 PM   #12
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Just getting back into motorcycle game. Had been a dedicated Harley guy, but have been hearing a lot about the Victory Vision. Started doing some digging and came across this image of Sonny Barger on a Victory Vision. Says he's now a Victory Vision guy.

So what are your thoughts on this? Is Victory the real deal? Are Harley's more an image than an actual good ride? Is Sonny on to something or just on something?
Well just make sure your going to keep it forever and pass it down to your kids kids. Seriously you dont want to trade it you'll take a hugh loss. Check values on these Victorys and how much they depreciate.
Good luck on what ever you choose.
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Old 09-18-2009, 02:22 PM   #13
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What? You aren't impressed by the opinion of the leader of a major crime syndicate? What's wrong with you?

Maybe the next ad campaign we see will headline: "Pablo Escobar recommends the Lincoln Navigator over the Suburban." That would make as much sense.
FORMER Leader of an ALLEGED Crime Syndicate. The distinction is small, yet still Omnipresent..............
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Old 09-18-2009, 02:26 PM   #14
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Well just make sure your going to keep it forever and pass it down to your kids kids. Seriously you dont want to trade it you'll take a hugh loss. Check values on these Victorys and how much they depreciate.
Good luck on what ever you choose.
I had to wonder if this Victory depreciation issue was urban legend, or if it had basis in fact. So I did a quick survey of fairly comparable bikes in NADA. It was a small survey population, so it may not be statistically valid:

07 Victory Vegas New: $16,649 Resale: $10,835 Delta: go figure
07 HD Wide Glide New: $17,430 Resale: $13,640 Delta: go figure
07 Yamaha Road Star New: $11,399 Resale: $7,905 Delta: go figure

The lowest depreciation loss is the Yamaha. Go figure.
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Old 09-18-2009, 02:44 PM   #15
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Well just make sure your going to keep it forever and pass it down to your kids kids. Seriously you dont want to trade it you'll take a hugh loss. Check values on these Victorys and how much they depreciate.
Good luck on what ever you choose.
Why would you want to trade it in? Didn't Victory just win an award for highest quality or customer satisfaction, or something like that? If that is the case, why would you ever want to get rid of it anyway?
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Old 09-18-2009, 03:08 PM   #16
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07 Victory Vegas New: $16,649 Resale: $10,835 Delta: 58%
07 HD Wide Glide New: $17,430 Resale: $13,640 Delta: 37%
07 Yamaha Road Star New: $11,399 Resale: $7,905 Delta: 34%

The lowest depreciation loss is the Yamaha. Go figure.
How are you calculating your numbers?

16649 - 10835 = 5814 .. 5814/16649 = .35
17430 - 13640 = 3790 .. 3790/17430 = .22
11399 - 7905 = 3494 .. 3494/11399 = .31
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Old 09-18-2009, 03:18 PM   #17
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How are you calculating your numbers?
With the Windows calculator. Naw, I Googled this formula:

((new value - original value) / original value) *100

I'm not much in to math, so maybe it's not the best formula. Maybe it's some secret car-dealer math. Seems the numbers still line up about about the same though as far as who depreciates best/worst.
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Old 09-18-2009, 04:09 PM   #18
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"I did a quick survey of fairly comparable bikes in NADA."

The real world prices and NADA have about as much to do with each other as Obama and spending limits.
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Old 09-18-2009, 06:05 PM   #19
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16649 - 10835 = 5814 .. 5814/16649 = .35
17430 - 13640 = 3790 .. 3790/17430 = .22
11399 - 7905 = 3494 .. 3494/11399 = .31
Those are the same numbers I'm getting.
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Dang! I lost my abacus. Has anybody seen my abacus?!
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