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Administrator · 09-11-2009, 11:42 AM

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2009 Honda CRF230M vs. 2009 QLINK XF200

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seruzawa · 09-11-2009, 11:58 AM

Well, the 2300+ dollar price difference is going to make the Qlink's shortcomings look pretty minor.

newagetwotone · 09-11-2009, 11:07 PM

To be honest, i like the headlight on the Qlink alot more than the honda.

Not that aesthetics are the biggest thing when it comes to dirt bikes but yea

CrazyCarl · 09-12-2009, 11:28 AM

The Qlink (manufactured by QingQi and sold all over the world under different names), was aesthetically designed in joint effort by it's Brazilian distributor and the manufacturer in Jinan, China.

The Qingqi's looks are certainly more "up to date" than the Suzuki DR200 it's derived from and Honda should certainly not be asking 5k for the 230 when there are multitudes of excellent low mileage, second hand bikes out there for way less than 5k (including the formidable DRZ400SM).

If QLink was smart, they would offer a 19/17" front/rear wheel package that would double the bike's versatility while still maintaining excellent tire choices and true light weight dual-purpose functionality.

QLink does sell a service manual for these bikes (75 bucks!!!!

) which should contain the specs of the suspension travel ol' Pete was looking for but for that price one could just as easily scrounge the internet for an excellently illustrated QingQi 200GY (same bike) full service manual. Only draw back is it's in Portuguese...

Well done article and nice to see the dyno comparisons. To my knowledge, it's the first set of dyno numbers I've ever seen on the Qlink/QingQi's.

Ride Safe, Have Fun,
Crazy Carl

The_AirHawk · 09-12-2009, 11:31 AM

Portuguese? Why would that be a drawback? More like a "Value-Added Feature"............

BTW - thanks for the link to The Return - Riding Western China in your sig - I just followed and purchased it. I notice that he's promoting the dirtrackproductions guys of Riding Solo to the Top of The World and One Crazy Ride. I've seen the former, and have the latter on the way.

CrazyCarl · 09-12-2009, 11:53 AM

Air Hawk,

If people are looking for English specifications and instructions it could be a problem. Spanish speakers can get through most of it without too many problems from what I understand.

Since a good amount of these bikes are sold in South America it makes sense that's where the Portuguese version comes from. The Portuguese manual is really excellent with step by step walk throughs and first class color coded illustrations. Definitely worth checking out regardless of what languages you may be able to read or write.

CC

Edit: I've attached some sample pages of the Portuguese version so you can see what I mean. We can thank some Brazilian moto friends for this. Googling "Qingqi 200 repair manual" should return some more complete results.

The_AirHawk · 09-12-2009, 12:38 PM

Carl, the "Portuguese" comment was meant as a joke (though I could probably muddle-through it if I REALLY had to).

We're mostly sane here. But not always.

Oh look! a Fish!

CrazyCarl · 09-12-2009, 12:48 PM

No worries. Most of the activity on Chinese motocycles comes from the international community and much credit is due to our oeverseas brothers and sisters.

It's still a manual worth looking at anyway and the diagrams alone will prove extremely useful to anyone who owns one of these QLinks.

Sanity is only slightly over rated.

CC

Kenneth_Moore · 09-12-2009, 03:49 PM

Who cares about the damn QLink manual? it's disposable; a Bic Clic motorcycle. You don't even have to submerge it in salt water, just go straight to the "Discard the Motorcycle" step when it won't make noise anymore.

I saw some of Honda's latest today at Riva Motorschports; they had the DN01 and a couple of Furys (Furies? Furrys?). The Fury ALMOST works...it's so damn close to being cool. But you just know that the chee-zee chromed plastic and barely polished aluminium is going to look like crap in a year or less. I bet they sell a bunch of them.

The DN01 is a waverunner. It looks like a waverunner, it feels like a waverunner under you. If it had a trigger throttle and one of those spiral engine stop cords for when you fall off...just add water. What a goofy POS that is. Maybe they'll sell enough Furrys to cover the Do Not Order 1's losses.

newagetwotone · 09-12-2009, 04:23 PM

I don't know why... but sometimes when i read Kens comments my brain starts to hurt...

09-11-2009, 11:42 AM	#1
Administrator Administrator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: On My Bike Posts: 0	2009 Honda CRF230M vs. 2009 QLINK XF200 Original Article: 2009 Honda CRF230M vs. 2009 QLINK XF200 Please discuss the Motorcycle.com article 2009 Honda CRF230M vs. 2009 QLINK XF200 in our Motorcycle Forums below. Use the reply button to let others know your comments or feedback on the article. Constructive criticism is always appreciated, along with your thoughts and personal opinions on the bikes and products we have tested.

09-11-2009, 11:58 AM	#2
seruzawa The Toad Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: 8501 ft. Posts: 17,395	Well, the 2300+ dollar price difference is going to make the Qlink's shortcomings look pretty minor. __________________ http://www.badmovies.org/movies/deadalive/ I kick @ss for the Lord!

09-12-2009, 11:28 AM	#4
CrazyCarl Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 10	QLink (QingQi) styling cues... The Qlink (manufactured by QingQi and sold all over the world under different names), was aesthetically designed in joint effort by it's Brazilian distributor and the manufacturer in Jinan, China. The Qingqi's looks are certainly more "up to date" than the Suzuki DR200 it's derived from and Honda should certainly not be asking 5k for the 230 when there are multitudes of excellent low mileage, second hand bikes out there for way less than 5k (including the formidable DRZ400SM). If QLink was smart, they would offer a 19/17" front/rear wheel package that would double the bike's versatility while still maintaining excellent tire choices and true light weight dual-purpose functionality. QLink does sell a service manual for these bikes (75 bucks!!!! ) which should contain the specs of the suspension travel ol' Pete was looking for but for that price one could just as easily scrounge the internet for an excellently illustrated QingQi 200GY (same bike) full service manual. Only draw back is it's in Portuguese... Well done article and nice to see the dyno comparisons. To my knowledge, it's the first set of dyno numbers I've ever seen on the Qlink/QingQi's. Ride Safe, Have Fun, Crazy Carl __________________ --------------------------------------------------- -The SWEETEST Chinese Motorcycle Industry and Travel community on the web. FO SHO! http://www.mychinamoto.com/ *-Buy "The Return - Riding Western China" DVD! - It's Motographically delicious!* http://www.motocyclops.com/thereturn/ -Geotagged Image Gallery http://www.panoramio.com/user/211654

09-12-2009, 11:31 AM	#5
The_AirHawk Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Leanin' Tower O' P-P-P-P-POWAAAAAAAAA!!!! Posts: 11,423	Portuguese? Why would that be a drawback? More like a "Value-Added Feature"............ BTW - thanks for the link to *The Return - Riding Western China* in your sig - I just followed and purchased it. I notice that he's promoting the dirtrackproductions guys of *Riding Solo to the Top of The World* and *One Crazy Ride. I've seen the former, and have the latter on the way. __________________ Parfois, on fait pas semblant* Sometimes, it's not pretend Oderint Dum Metuant Let them hate so long as they fear политики предпочитают безоружных крестьян Politicians Prefer Unarmed Peasants Nothing to see here, Citizen. Move along now... Last edited by The_AirHawk : 09-12-2009 at 12:35 PM.

09-12-2009, 12:38 PM	#7
The_AirHawk Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Leanin' Tower O' P-P-P-P-POWAAAAAAAAA!!!! Posts: 11,423	Carl, the "Portuguese" comment was meant as a joke (though I could probably muddle-through it if I REALLY had to). We're mostly sane here. But not always. Oh look! a Fish! __________________ *Parfois, on fait pas semblant* Sometimes, it's not pretend Oderint Dum Metuant Let them hate so long as they fear политики предпочитают безоружных крестьян Politicians Prefer Unarmed Peasants Nothing to see here, Citizen. Move along now...

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09-11-2009, 11:07 PM	#3
newagetwotone Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,302	To be honest, i like the headlight on the Qlink alot more than the honda. Not that aesthetics are the biggest thing when it comes to dirt bikes but yea

09-12-2009, 12:48 PM	#8
CrazyCarl Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 10	No worries. Most of the activity on Chinese motocycles comes from the international community and much credit is due to our oeverseas brothers and sisters. It's still a manual worth looking at anyway and the diagrams alone will prove extremely useful to anyone who owns one of these QLinks. Sanity is only slightly over rated. CC __________________ --------------------------------------------------- -The SWEETEST Chinese Motorcycle Industry and Travel community on the web. FO SHO! http://www.mychinamoto.com/ *-Buy "The Return - Riding Western China" DVD! - It's Motographically delicious!* http://www.motocyclops.com/thereturn/ -Geotagged Image Gallery http://www.panoramio.com/user/211654

09-12-2009, 03:49 PM	#9
Kenneth_Moore Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: VIsiting the GIft Shop in the Pit of DIspair Posts: 7,118	Who cares about the damn QLink manual? it's disposable; a Bic Clic motorcycle. You don't even have to submerge it in salt water, just go straight to the "Discard the Motorcycle" step when it won't make noise anymore. I saw some of Honda's latest today at Riva Motorschports; they had the DN01 and a couple of Furys (Furies? Furrys?). The Fury ALMOST works...it's so damn close to being cool. But you just know that the chee-zee chromed plastic and barely polished aluminium is going to look like crap in a year or less. I bet they sell a bunch of them. The DN01 is a waverunner. It looks like a waverunner, it feels like a waverunner under you. If it had a trigger throttle and one of those spiral engine stop cords for when you fall off...just add water. What a goofy POS that is. Maybe they'll sell enough Furrys to cover the Do Not Order 1's losses. __________________ www.kennethmoore.org

09-12-2009, 04:23 PM	#10
newagetwotone Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,302	I don't know why... but sometimes when i read Kens comments my brain starts to hurt...