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Old 09-14-2009, 02:04 PM   #141
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It really makes me angry that although they have an unique status and brand, what is their management doing?


Same thing since the dawn of time,...NOTHING!
Apparently their mgmt. has been creating a unique status and brand all this time.

Remember, a few years ago H-D outsold Honda in the U.S. I guess they should create bikes like the VFR that everyone loves and no one buys.
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Old 09-14-2009, 02:09 PM   #142
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I'am talking innovation, technology, sportbikes. I really wished they would grow and think into a defferent realm. Rather than make the same old designs. You know they have the money. Its just that chip on their shoulder they must remove.
Maybe you heard of MV Agusta? Harley owns them. Is that innovative enough?
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Old 09-14-2009, 02:14 PM   #143
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Maybe you heard of MV Agusta? Harley owns them. Is that innovative enough?
I wonder how you say KPaul in Hawaiian?
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Old 09-14-2009, 02:21 PM   #144
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I'am talking innovation, technology, sportbikes. I really wished they would grow and think into a defferent realm. Rather than make the same old designs. You know they have the money. Its just that chip on their shoulder they must remove.
C'mon now. My bike has ABS, cruise control, radial tires, throttle by wire, air suspension, closed loop fuel injection, adjustable rider and passenger foot boards, cushioned belt drive, available CD & Ceirius XM radio, is virtually maintanance free and gets 45mpg, all with a 2 year warranty and a phone book worth of factory accessories plus a nationwide dealer network second only to Ford.

And that's a "standard" touring model, the Ultra and Classic offer tons more stuff stock. What more do you want them to do?
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Old 09-14-2009, 02:23 PM   #145
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I wonder how you say KPaul in Hawaiian?
I think you can just say it in English. No translation necessary.
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Old 09-14-2009, 02:32 PM   #146
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I'am talking innovation, technology, sportbikes. I really wished they would grow and think into a defferent realm. Rather than make the same old designs. You know they have the money. Its just that chip on their shoulder they must remove.
I think you're wrong. I think it's a very valid business plan to not try to be everything to everyone. To focus on a part of the market that you really do well, and exploit that to the fullest. HD had clearly done that, with great sucess. At the same time they aquired Buell to go into the sport bike segment. You may have noticed Buell is doing the same thing; focusing purely on Sportbikes, even to the point of dropping the Blast (will they drop the Uly?).
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C'mon now. My bike has ABS, cruise control, radial tires, throttle by wire, air suspension, closed loop fuel injection, adjustable rider and passenger foot boards, cushioned belt drive, available CD & Ceirius XM radio, is virtually maintanance free and gets 45mpg, all with a 2 year warranty and a phone book worth of factory accessories plus a nationwide dealer network second only to Ford.

And that's a "standard" touring model, the Ultra and Classic offer tons more stuff stock. What more do you want them to do?
Yeah, but it's not an inline-4... the true test of innovation! And DOHC! those were invented by the Japanese! right? Wait, the DOHC was 1917 as I recall. And the inline-4 was an Indian... also before WWII. Not many Japanese motorcycles built back then. In 1929 the Harley-Davidson Motorcycle Sales Company of Japan established the Shinagawa factory, the first motorcycle production factory in Japan.
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I think you're wrong. I think it's a very valid business plan to not try to be everything to everyone. To focus on a part of the market that you really do well, and exploit that to the fullest. HD had clearly done that, with great sucess. At the same time they aquired Buell to go into the sport bike segment. You may have noticed Buell is doing the same thing; focusing purely on Sportbikes, even to the point of dropping the Blast (will they drop the Uly?).
Ducati's entire line is sport-style bikes. No cruisers there any more. No big boat tourers. The Monsters are unfaired sportbikes. and the Multi-strada is an ergo-improved sportbike as well. Why doesn't duck get slammed for being so narrowly focused?
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Old 09-14-2009, 02:58 PM   #149
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I wonder how you say KPaul in Hawaiian?
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Ducati's entire line is sport-style bikes. No cruisers there any more. No big boat tourers. The Monsters are unfaired sportbikes. and the Multi-strada is an ergo-improved sportbike as well. Why doesn't duck get slammed for being so narrowly focused?
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