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Old 08-24-2009, 03:21 PM   #31
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lari, isn't this bike the same as the Brazilian brand's Sundown STX motard and enduro?

Sundown Motos

I have seen a few videos on youtube of the motard in action--what kind of reputation do these bikes have in Brazil?
i don´t really know,but could it be..here(argentina) there´s two or three brands who sale it...BETA ....Sitio Oficial Betamotor Argentina

and when i said that i miss brazilian made bikes is because honda made bikes in" zona franca do manaus" and that´´s the bikes you saw here until chinese products arrive.
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Old 08-24-2009, 06:49 PM   #32
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culcune,

Yer suspiciously well-written /informed for the average Interweb forum user. But nice to have you aboard, anyhow.
Culcune is the MAN. He got the pulse on this stuff like a nurse at an accident. You'll be hard pressed to find a guy who consistently knows more about the Chinese motorcycle market in North America than Culcune. He's also got a pretty good grip on the foreign/international market as well, which is complicated to say the least since China is a big player.

To follow the Chinese market, you dig into every corner of the world to find out what's going down with absurd amounts of different Chinese manufacturers who use different names for different regions...and that's not even counting the ones from Taiwan or scooters.

Culturally, bikes are still products as far a motorcycling in China goes although that may very well change over time since China is full of extremely dedicated riders of all ages and walks of life. Nonetheless, these bikes are sold like matchbooks all over the world, which makes sense since China made and exported half of all the motorcycles produced worldwide in 2008.

The amount of different names is mind boggling and a wonderful illustration of this is the list of countries the QLink XF/XP200 (really a QingQi 200GY) is sold in, and their names. This information was compiled by Forchetto, another perpetual fountain of knowledge, who hails from Spain.

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The original maker is JINAN QINGQI QM200GY-BA (also known as qm200gy-b(a) ) for the motard version.
Also made by an outfit known as Shandong Pioneer and called XF200GY-B this is some sort of subsidiary of the main factory.

In USA it's the QLINK XF200 SUMO
In Canada it's a Konker KSM200
In Brasil STX 200 Motard Sundown

In the UK it appears as:

Pulse Adrenaline 125 (XF125GY-2B)
Sinnis Apache QM200GY
and Superbyke RMR200

In Chile/Colombia QMT200 or GXT Euromot
In the Philippines it's a Sinski Motard 200R
In Paraguay Genesis GXT200 B
In Honduras a KMF
In Spain it's marketed by Qingqi importer direct or I-moto as a Tiger sm 125
In Turkey it's a Ramzey QM200GY
In Checkoslovakia it's a YUKI 250 SM (too close to YUCKY for comfort...)
In Russia it's called QINGQI DRAGON 200 SUPERMOTO
In France Hooper 125 SMR
In Germany it's imported by the prestigious Kreidler as a Supermoto 125 DD
In Australia Arqin motorcycles RT200SM
In Sweden they call it a TMS Supermotard 200cc
In the Ukraine its a SkyMoto Dragon-200 or Matador 200
In South Africa its a Viper 200
In Italy the Beta Urban 200 and Urban 200 special have a Qingqi engine.

If anyone has more please tell us.
QingQi Manufacturer Links - MyChinaMoto

Diffucult industry to follow but it's got "underdawg" written all over it.

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Old 08-24-2009, 06:58 PM   #33
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Thanks for shedding more light, CrazyCarl! Weird that we've learned more from you and culcune than from Qlink itself, although it was nice for them to show up on this thread and provide further illumination.
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Old 08-24-2009, 07:41 PM   #34
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More than happy to Kevin. This bike was actually available in China for a a couple of years before QLink started selling them in North America, which is how I initially became familiar with the model and manufacturer.

Since then, we see lots of interesting models coming out of China now. The question is who will play the marketing game right?

Could be anybody!

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Old 08-25-2009, 03:33 AM   #35
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I'd buy one if they renamed it 'Konker".
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Old 05-24-2013, 06:53 PM   #36
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Thought I would post a thread by Spud Rider and his Zongshen 200 dual sport. He bought his back when the prices were way low on Chinese made motorcycles. Last I heard he has about 55,000 miles on it, and it's running fine.
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