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Old 08-17-2009, 09:51 AM   #21
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Old 08-17-2009, 10:32 AM   #22
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What no SV/Concours/VFR?!?!?!?!
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Old 08-17-2009, 05:21 PM   #23
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Any desire for a long term evaluation of any of these bikes? Would it even be possible? MO reviews and forum comments are always the best. A long term eval would go a long way coming from you guys. I understand this request may not be feasible for a number of reasons.

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Old 08-17-2009, 09:26 PM   #24
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Any desire for a long term evaluation of any of these bikes? Would it even be possible? MO reviews and forum comments are always the best. A long term eval would go a long way coming from you guys. I understand this request may not be feasible for a number of reasons.
Well, sheei-it, yeah, we'd love to have any of these bikes for a long-termer! Which bike were you referring to? But, as you suspect, OEMs don't get as much bang for their buck with a long-termer - it's better for them to send to as many publications as possible. Plus, we've got an endless rotation of bikes rolling thru our garage, so it's tough for us, too.

Personally, I'll take a Street Triple and Monster 1100 in my garage, and I'll sacrifice to do a long-term shootout!
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Old 08-18-2009, 06:24 AM   #25
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Well, sheei-it, yeah, we'd love to have any of these bikes for a long-termer! Which bike were you referring to? But, as you suspect, OEMs don't get as much bang for their buck with a long-termer - it's better for them to send to as many publications as possible. Plus, we've got an endless rotation of bikes rolling thru our garage, so it's tough for us, too.

Personally, I'll take a Street Triple and Monster 1100 in my garage, and I'll sacrifice to do a long-term shootout![/quote]

Thanks Kevin. I thought that might be the case. The Monster and the BMW tourers would be my choice.The best Eccentric and Event catagories were a treat. Glad you added them.
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Old 08-19-2009, 06:45 AM   #26
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Nice work guys. Good write up.
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Old 08-19-2009, 09:58 AM   #27
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Default Need to test Suzuki TU 250 and Hyosung GT 250.

How can you declare the Ninja 250 the winner without testing its competition?
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Old 08-19-2009, 10:06 AM   #28
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How can you declare the Ninja 250 the winner without testing its competition?

Do you seriously think an air cooled single cylinder TU250 can compete with a Ninja 250 on any level?

I'm going to go out on a limb and say the Hyosung is a bit heavier, cruder, and doesn't have the proven reliability of the Ninja.
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Old 08-19-2009, 10:29 AM   #29
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Default It is not horsepower at this level.

It is excitement in learning that is important. All the other magazines loved it and retro is making a comeback. Now if the Kawi was naked and more like an ER6 or a versys I would find it more justified. Crotch rockets are not preferred by everyone.
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Old 08-19-2009, 10:33 AM   #30
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Do you seriously think an air cooled single cylinder TU250 can compete with a Ninja 250 on any level?

I'm going to go out on a limb and say the Hyosung is a bit heavier, cruder, and doesn't have the proven reliability of the Ninja.
Answers are forthcoming. We're waiting for the Hyosung to join the Ninja in our garage. And a TU is coming to MO ASAP.
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