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GS1100GK · 08-11-2009, 04:30 AM

OK, cigs, condoms, boxers, opinions, ego stroking, and everything else aside. All of these bikes are great. I've ridden all except the K1300GT (test rode the K1200GT last year which my ZZR1200 would spank in outright performance) and could appreciate every one for how they approach the ST experience. Kevin is right (can't believe I'm typing this...LOL) in that in the end the need for power and speed is a deciding factor. In the real world unless you ride the Autobahn on a daily basis all 4 bikes offer enough performance to handle the twisties and everyday riding in the US. Hell, even the alternatives from Moto Guzzi, and Buell would get you from point A to point B in comfort and style. So, in the end since all the bikes will accomplish the mission, price, and performance are the top two deciding factors with maybe brand loyalty a close third. I ended up chosing the Concours 14 and have no regrets.

Just my .02 cents worth!

Mooner · 08-11-2009, 12:53 PM

Nice review. I have come to the conclusion that I would definitely have to test ride these thing before making a decision. Thankfully (or maybe not) they are all out of my price range for the time being so it doesn't matter. I may still have to see if I can find a test ride. I have ridden the ST and the FJR in the past and was surprised that I actually liked the ST a little better.

Also, I especially like the Bandit 1250 idea. If I didn't have my V-Strom, I think that would be the bike for me.

Fenton · 08-12-2009, 01:13 PM

Nice review/comparo guys. Give me the FJR.
I am surprised at how often I use the ESA on my KR. "Comfort" on all the highway stuff, "Normal" for the uh, normal stuff and sport for the tight stuff. Love it!

longride · 08-12-2009, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Fenton

Nice review/comparo guys. Give me the FJR.
I am surprised at how often I use the ESA on my KR. "Comfort" on all the highway stuff, "Normal" for the uh, normal stuff and sport for the tight stuff. Love it!

Well, well, well, look who comes out of the woodwork. I guess you need a special invitation to join in these days??

Fenton · 08-12-2009, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by longride

Well, well, well, look who comes out of the woodwork. I guess you need a special invitation to join in these days??

I was googling "cigs, condoms and coke" and this thread came up.
What's going on. Thanks for the pics via PM, are you dropping some pounds cause the speedo looked better. At least not like a rubberband on a pear like the last ones.
I'm trying to hook up with Buz for lunch at the end of the month.

team222 · 10-27-2009, 06:08 AM

I would like you to add one more measurement criteria related to seats:

Seat length in total..... along with rider and passenger seat lengths

This is critical for two up riding.

longride · 10-27-2009, 06:09 AM

"This is critical for two up riding."

Only for fat people.

team222 · 10-27-2009, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by longride

"This is critical for two up riding."

Only for fat people.

Right....welcome to America where your statement of the obvious is really not necessary....but news here for you is that two tall people do not fit that great on a 25" long seat.

Kenneth_Moore · 10-27-2009, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by team222

Right....welcome to America where your statement of the obvious is really not necessary....but news here for you is that two tall people do not fit that great on a 25" long seat.

Donuts! Pizza! All U Can Eat! "You call this..a LARGE???!?!"

10-27-2009, 06:08 AM	#86
team222 Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 35	Seat Lengths I would like you to add one more measurement criteria related to seats: Seat length in total..... along with rider and passenger seat lengths This is critical for two up riding.

10-27-2009, 06:09 AM	#87
longride Super Duper Mod Man Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Anywhere they let me Posts: 10,484	"This is critical for two up riding." Only for fat people. __________________ I'm a knucklehead

08-11-2009, 04:30 AM	#81
GS1100GK Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 55	OK, cigs, condoms, boxers, opinions, ego stroking, and everything else aside. All of these bikes are great. I've ridden all except the K1300GT (test rode the K1200GT last year which my ZZR1200 would spank in outright performance) and could appreciate every one for how they approach the ST experience. Kevin is right (can't believe I'm typing this...LOL) in that in the end the need for power and speed is a deciding factor. In the real world unless you ride the Autobahn on a daily basis all 4 bikes offer enough performance to handle the twisties and everyday riding in the US. Hell, even the alternatives from Moto Guzzi, and Buell would get you from point A to point B in comfort and style. So, in the end since all the bikes will accomplish the mission, price, and performance are the top two deciding factors with maybe brand loyalty a close third. I ended up chosing the Concours 14 and have no regrets. Just my .02 cents worth!

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08-11-2009, 12:53 PM	#82
Mooner Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 216	Nice review. I have come to the conclusion that I would definitely have to test ride these thing before making a decision. Thankfully (or maybe not) they are all out of my price range for the time being so it doesn't matter. I may still have to see if I can find a test ride. I have ridden the ST and the FJR in the past and was surprised that I actually liked the ST a little better. Also, I especially like the Bandit 1250 idea. If I didn't have my V-Strom, I think that would be the bike for me.

08-12-2009, 01:13 PM	#83
Fenton Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Arvada, CO Posts: 1,900	Nice review/comparo guys. Give me the FJR. I am surprised at how often I use the ESA on my KR. "Comfort" on all the highway stuff, "Normal" for the uh, normal stuff and sport for the tight stuff. Love it!