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Old 07-16-2009, 08:10 AM   #11
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"That's why I say power to weight ratios and outright performance figures are irrelevent in street riding, other than to bag on your buddies about how weak their bikes are compared to yours."
If you aren't going to bag your buds about their weak bike, what else is there to do at the Burger Barn?
sorry...neglected to mention I'm talking about circuit racing here, not street, I like the comment 'torque is acceleration and hp is speed': makes sense. However my specific question is, if I'm in the right thread on this, is: if the ducati 1098 has a dry powertoweight(2) lower than the r6(3 hp per lb), what does that really mean...will the r6 theoretically outperform the ducati 1098?
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Old 07-16-2009, 08:20 AM   #12
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sorry...neglected to mention I'm talking about circuit racing here, not street, I like the comment 'torque is acceleration and hp is speed': makes sense. However my specific question is, if I'm in the right thread on this, is: if the ducati 1098 has a dry powertoweight(2) lower than the r6(3 hp per lb), what does that really mean...will the r6 theoretically outperform the ducati 1098?

On a track power to weight will not win races. Suspension setups, different geometry, seating position, rider skill, etc etc... There are too many factors involved with winning on the track than just power to weight.
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Old 07-16-2009, 08:56 AM   #13
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Not to mention braking skill (conservation of speed) and which track you're on.

So the 'power-to-weight' thing is still not the major consideration.
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Old 07-16-2009, 08:58 AM   #14
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Not to mention braking skill (conservation of speed) and which track you're on.

So the 'power-to-weight' thing is still not the major consideration.

The Buell XB's spanking liter bikes through twisties is a good example of power to weight not meaning much.
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Old 07-16-2009, 09:18 AM   #15
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The Buell XB's spanking liter bikes through twisties is a good example of power to weight not meaning much.
Yeah. And Aprilia 250s or Supermotards doing the same thing gives a clue.
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sorry...neglected to mention I'm talking about circuit racing here, not street, I like the comment 'torque is acceleration and hp is speed': makes sense. However my specific question is, if I'm in the right thread on this, is: if the ducati 1098 has a dry powertoweight(2) lower than the r6(3 hp per lb), what does that really mean...will the r6 theoretically outperform the ducati 1098?
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Old 07-16-2009, 04:36 PM   #17
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well riders are taught to watch their body weights as when you add the bikes weight and yours you want to favour power to weight as much as possblle; agree on all points about tyres, susp etc but i wanted to deal with the power to weight issue in a theoretical sense
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