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Old 04-28-2009, 07:21 AM   #41
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So the Big Four don't want to play with the Duc. Did Ducati not have a standard 1198 available to use? There is not that much price disparity between the standard Duc and the Big Four.

Of course, they will would have whined.
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Old 04-28-2009, 09:02 AM   #42
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So the Big Four don't want to play with the Duc. Did Ducati not have a standard 1198 available to use? There is not that much price disparity between the standard Duc and the Big Four.

Of course, they will would have whined.
The first 1198 available for testing was the S model, and we couldn't turn it down. The standard 1198 might've not been objected to, but it was too late for our shootout by then. But, still, there's a $4000-$5000 price difference. On the plus side, the 1198 series is so different from the Japanese literbikes that I don't think there's much cross-shopping between them. In terms of street usability (ergos, mirrors, comfort, etc), the Duc is well behind the true liters. It sure is wicked cool, though!
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"In terms of street usability (ergos, mirrors, comfort, etc), the Duc is well behind the true liters."

Like that matters?


"It sure is wicked cool, though!"

Now THAT matters!
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Old 04-28-2009, 09:33 AM   #44
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"In terms of street usability (ergos, mirrors, comfort, etc), the Duc is well behind the true liters."

Like that matters?


"It sure is wicked cool, though!"

Now THAT matters!
If you're looking for street usability why would you be looking at one of these things at all?
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If you're looking for street usability why would you be looking at one of these things at all?
Cuz you can ride 'em on the street! They actually do quite well as a commuter or sport-tourer or whatever. This is one reason why we appreciate the adjustable pegs on the Gixxer and R1, and we hope to seeing adjustable clip-ons on some bikes in the future.
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"They actually do quite well as a commuter or sport-tourer or whatever."

As long as you are 5'3" and 135 lbs. I would agree. Anything over that, and they pretty much suck compared to any standard.
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"They actually do quite well as a commuter or sport-tourer or whatever."

As long as you are 5'3" and 135 lbs. I would agree. Anything over that, and they pretty much suck compared to any standard.

So you're saying that since I'm 5'10" and 250lbs I won't fit on these things?
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So you're saying that since I'm 5'10" and 250lbs I won't fit on these things?
Only if you go to the gym.
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Cuz you can ride 'em on the street! They actually do quite well as a commuter or sport-tourer or whatever. This is one reason why we appreciate the adjustable pegs on the Gixxer and R1, and we hope to seeing adjustable clip-ons on some bikes in the future.
You can ride a TD1 on the street too. If you were nuts.

I got a ride on a buddy's Street Triple. Now THAT's a street machine.
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So you're saying that since I'm 5'10" and 250lbs I won't fit on these things?
The problem won't be getting on the bike, it will be removing the bike from your butt crack when you get back.
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