Military Pushing for Rider Safety

[MOKE1K]

Time for a trackday!

[MOKE1K]

Originally Posted by dlangfoda

Im in the Navy and was able to participate in the track-day at Kaneohe. Forget fun, that was the absolute best time I have ever had on two wheels! Its unfortunate that it has taken this long for big brother to figure this one out. Right now there are no tracks/courses available to anyone including civi's out here. I only hope this encourages the Core or Navy to either continue this or better yet re-open Barber's Point. Thanks to the Marine who let us bubble heads come out and tear it up on the tarmac!

I'v raced at Campbell Industrial Park back in 93. They would need alot of worked to fix that place up its kind of dangerous, or at least it was when I was last their. A trackday is thee best way for people to learn saftey skills that can be directly related to the street.

[SmokeU]

My co-workers kid got back from Iraq and promptly bought a Hayabusa as his "I survived" gift to himself. He'd never ridden before...

[ejis]

My installation has required at least a BRC since I got my first bike 10 years ago. I took the new-ish Navy sportbike course when it was made mandatory and was rather impressed, actually. I can't say that I learned any new material over other classes, but the instructors caught some bad habits of mine and I truly think it improved my riding. Certainly worth the paid time and zero dollars spent!

Much of my work deals with aviation safety, and I work closely with various safety offices from the squadron level all the way to the top. I was truly surprised with the level of concern the leadership had with the losses that we've suffered from motorcycle related incidents and the thought that was put into reasonable solutions. Some of these guys even ride...

[U4eeeahhh]

This ignores the fact that some of those 150+ motorcycle related deaths may have been suicides. Suicides are also up in all branches

[MOKE1K]

Heres the statement I like the best althought most here if they have served probably won't like my reasoning behind it.

"this is all about saving lives and preserving combat capability.”

If you cant die for us, your not worth anything to the military!

Such care and compassion?

[longride]

"Such care and compassion?"

I hate to side with the military guys on this one MOKE, but they pay for your training, roof, meals, clothes and pay your salary after you sign up. At that point, their investment in you is for military purposes only. Yes, they want you to die for them. Care and compassion isn't part of the package.

[Dr_Sprocket]

Originally Posted by MOKE1K

Heres the statement I like the best althought most here if they have served probably won't like my reasoning behind it.

"this is all about saving lives and preserving combat capability.”

If you cant die for us, your not worth anything to the military!

Such care and compassion?

True, perhaps. But it's not much different than the NBA, NFL or MLB. Many teams have so much money wrapped up in superstars, that they don't want them going out and wrecking their ability to help the team (in their specific role). I wouldn't say it's about dying, as much as it is being fit enough to perform your job/duty.

[seruzawa]

Originally Posted by Dr_Sprocket

True, perhaps. But it's not much different than the NBA, NFL or MLB. Many teams have so much money wrapped up in superstars, that they don't want them going out and wrecking their ability to help the team (in their specific role). I wouldn't say it's about dying, as much as it is being fit enough to perform your job/duty.

At least the military doesn't throw out stuff like "We have excess population". There are some politicians I could mention.......

[pplassm]

Originally Posted by U4eeeahhh

Suicides are also up in all branches

????? Where did you hear that? MoveOn.org? I still work with people in the know, and the word is that suicide is at the same rate as the general population.