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Old 03-25-2009, 05:23 PM   #31
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For starters EU doesn't have a president. Secondly, I don't love this Obama guy, I don't even know him. But its very unlikely he could worse than the bunch of world class clowns that went to great war by a silly mistake.

But if you are happy that your previous government blew 500 billion of American taxpayers' hard earned cash to bring democracy to Iraq, whom am I to say you shouldn't be? Its your money not mine.

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You really are two dimensional. An have a very limited intellect because you are apparently incapable of getting around the idea if one dislikes one party that he must therefore support the other.

I believe in individual freedom and total personal responsiblity. This makes me unsuitable to be either a Republican or a Democrat or basically to be a european.
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Old 03-25-2009, 09:15 PM   #32
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You forgot the old triumvirate member the SV650.

And how would an M109 stack up?

The ME109 did better in a dive because of the fuel injection and in armament as the nose cannon was devastating, however both the Spitfire and Hurricane were more manuverable with higher ceilings and better ****pit ventilation and defrosting. the 109 and FW190 were both notorious for icing and condensation issues at higher altitudes.. The home field advantage can not be ignored either as the ME109 was at the limit of it's range over southern England, however and unfortunately that was mitigated later on over Germany and Western Europe as the Mustang and Thunderbolt, both equipped with drop tanks could loiter on station for extended periods.

The ME109's main successes came early against the antiquated Polish and Soviet air forces, this only lasted until the Lend-Lease sourced Bell Aircobra and Soviet built Stormovicks appeared in greater numbers.. Once this happened the ME109 was relegated to an also ran along with the ME110. not fit for front line combat except in rare situations.
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Old 03-25-2009, 09:32 PM   #33
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But its very unlikely he could worse than the bunch of world class clowns that went to great war by a silly mistake.

But if you are happy that your previous government blew 500 billion of American taxpayers' hard earned cash to bring democracy to Iraq, whom am I to say you shouldn't be? Its your money not mine.

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"Great War"? You call THAT a "Great War"? Do they not teach History in Europe anymore?

And the Euro's think American children are Ignorant and Uneducated.................
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Old 03-26-2009, 04:30 AM   #34
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"For starters EU doesn't have a president. ..."

Score another one for cruz-yurup! Yes you do. The only reason you open your mouth is to change feet.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/26/wo...m0ZfRfPLsKfVzg
So which one are you going to believe, me your old friend cruiz-yurup or some gringo glue sniffing journalist?

EU does NOT have a president.

The guy that is referred to is President of European Council, a chairman of an organ within EU buraucracy. Its like speaker of the house role, apart from the fact that your speaker of the house does actually have some clout.

Ours is chosen on rotational basis and comes usually from an impossibly named country that nobody's never heard of and who believes chewing pigs ears enhances potence.

There is a proposal already on the table that EU should have a president. Luckily your previous one made such an ass out of himself that most europeans are totally against any such pillock.

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Old 03-26-2009, 04:51 AM   #35
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"Great War"? You call THAT a "Great War"? Do they not teach History in Europe anymore?

And the Euro's think American children are Ignorant and Uneducated.................
I used great as an adjective. Meaning that I am talking about a sizeable war, not like you guys attacking the usual Panama or Grenada or some such.

Of course the word was badly chosen and some people, probably in Boise Idaho, now think Bush started the WWI. I mean there are people who believe EU has a president.

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I used great as an adjective. Meaning that I am talking about a sizeable war, not like you guys attacking the usual Panama or Grenada or some such.

Of course the word was badly chosen and some people, probably in Boise Idaho, now think Bush started the WWI. I mean there are people who believe EU has a president.

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At least I can buy a gun if I want. I'm not watched by a billion CCTV cameras etc. I can make fun of blondes, Norwegians, or gays if I want to. They STILL teach WWII history here, unlike some countries in Europe. I can play any video game or movie I want without fear of censorship.

Heh, yeah, Europe is the place to be.
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At least I can buy a gun if I want. I'm not watched by a billion CCTV cameras etc. I can make fun of blondes, Norwegians, or gays if I want to. They STILL teach WWII history here, unlike some countries in Europe. I can play any video game or movie I want without fear of censorship.

Heh, yeah, Europe is the place to be.
I believe you are talking about the greater freedoms you have over there?

In Europe we can also make fun of Norweigians, blondes, gays or ethnic people. We teach WWII too and we teach it better. (Did you know Germans had already lost the war in the east before Normandy happened? Never met an American who had any idea.) Anyways, which are those countries in Europe that don't allow WWII teaching?

We can drive around in a car full of naked people drinking booze and the cops can say nothing (if the driver is sober), the cops can’t pop the trunk or enter a van without a search permit. We can take our sofa and carry it to any beach or park and get publicly intoxicated on it and its totally legit. We can read Playboy in the office without getting a sexual harrasment suit.

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Wait a tic !!!! you mean chewing pigs ears doesn't enhance ones prowess? I've been chewing them nasty bastards for years and all along I was just supporting the export industry of the Democratic Peoples Republic of Kzyxrkykistyayn??? all along I was just naturally a sexy beast?????

Sheesh......
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Old 03-26-2009, 07:13 AM   #39
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The ME109 did better in a dive because of the fuel injection and in armament as the nose cannon was devastating, however both the Spitfire and Hurricane were more manuverable with higher ceilings and better ****pit ventilation and defrosting. the 109 and FW190 were both notorious for icing and condensation issues at higher altitudes.. The home field advantage can not be ignored either as the ME109 was at the limit of it's range over southern England, however and unfortunately that was mitigated later on over Germany and Western Europe as the Mustang and Thunderbolt, both equipped with drop tanks could loiter on station for extended periods.

The ME109's main successes came early against the antiquated Polish and Soviet air forces, this only lasted until the Lend-Lease sourced Bell Aircobra and Soviet built Stormovicks appeared in greater numbers.. Once this happened the ME109 was relegated to an also ran along with the ME110. not fit for front line combat except in rare situations.
The Mitsubishi Zero at the time would have had Spitfires and 109s for lunch.
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The Mitsubishi Zero at the time would have had Spitfires and 109s for lunch.
The Zero was fast and manuverable because of it's light weight. It had no armor or self sealing gas tanks, that's why you always see them going down like a Roman Candle. I think I'd rather be in a Spitfire or better yet a Thunderbolt which was built like a battleship with wings.
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