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Old 03-13-2009, 07:41 AM   #51
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Really- the purest form may be ralley car. They've raced on dirt longer than any other surface. I'm not sayin'..... I'm just sayin'.....
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Old 03-13-2009, 10:34 AM   #52
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So how would say a buell XB9R do against a CB600 in one of these races... hm, never liked racing much but that might be something i;d like to watch...
If you're a Buell fan, then you should pay attention to the AMA Daytona SportBike class in which the 1125R races against the Japanese 600s. That bike is going to win at some point this year.
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"I'm curious though. Why is it that you believe that big business interest are entirely evil and spread undue influence everywhere in the world except F1 racing?"


Because according to eurodope, F1 is 'the purest form of motor sporting". How he came to that conclusion I can't figure for the life of me.
"Purest form of racing" is nonsensical. Maybe one could make a case for horse racing. But vehicles? Too many variables. Auto/motorcycle racing will always be arbitrary.

However the only way to actually prove rider skill would be to have everyone race identical vehicles. Just pick one particular bike model and have everyone ride that model with the same tires, etc. Oh wait. We already had that. It was called "AMA Supersport". The bikes had different brand names only. Several hundred people watched.
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Old 03-13-2009, 12:09 PM   #54
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"Purest form of racing" is nonsensical. Maybe one could make a case for horse racing. But vehicles? Too many variables. Auto/motorcycle racing will always be arbitrary.

However the only way to actually prove rider skill would be to have everyone race identical vehicles. Just pick one particular bike model and have everyone ride that model with the same tires, etc. Oh wait. We already had that. It was called "AMA Supersport". The bikes had different brand names only. Several hundred people watched.
I believe it was clear that we were talking "motorized" vehicles. That being the case, cars racing across county or on track did it first on dirt. I'm talking "organized and promoted event" here. Not a bunch of guys drinkin' beers and sayin', "Mine's faster than yours".
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Old 03-13-2009, 12:15 PM   #55
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I believe it was clear that we were talking "motorized" vehicles. That being the case, cars racing across county or on track did it first on dirt. I'm talking "organized and promoted event" here. Not a bunch of guys drinkin' beers and sayin', "Mine's faster than yours".
Sure, but there's nothing "pure" about it. Any chance of purity was lost when the early racers got together and using politics got the steamers banned from racing. Ever since then it's been various interests promoting self-serving rule changes.
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That's how Larry Pegram ran his team two season's ago. He got fans to send checks of a few hundred dollars to a few thousand (I sponsored his bike at Rd ATL in 2007). They get a mention, tickets to their desired race and lunch with Larry and his family. It worked, too. He had great results and it was all done for about $300k for the season.

Kevin- when are you going to hit Las Vegas Harley with your idea. It's Miguel's home away from home, right? So, go to them and get two bikes. Find a bunch of small sponsors and tell me when you need a mechanic. I know a Ducati/MV Master Tech that is humbly working as a service writer right now because the shop he was at closed. Oh- he used to work for Ferracci.
Call Build Mometum's Ed K (I'm not spelling his last name)- he's the guy behind all of Larry's funding- to get you going. Let us know when it's time to chip in. If we could get every member to chip in $50-100 we could all be part of MOron Racing.
I pitched the idea of having MO pitching in to help Miguel's '09 season, but they weren't interested. Too bad...
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