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Old 03-09-2009, 08:01 PM   #41
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Old 03-09-2009, 08:18 PM   #42
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Old 03-12-2009, 10:04 AM   #44
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Yes, that racing series is called World Supersport. And the there's one called British Supersport. And German Supersport. And just about all the other major European national production bike series. Do you just make stuff up as you go along?
What are you talking about? MotoGP is called Supersport? And you are blaming me for making stuff up tsk tsk. MotoGP is where the real guys hang around. Such as Rossi and Hayden (Hayden who?).

What it comes to the technical choices there are of course different opinions (stupid and mine of course). I think there should be one set of rules and no arbitrary handicaps for silly people trying to push inferior designs. Let the race begin.

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Old 03-12-2009, 10:25 AM   #45
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What are you talking about? MotoGP is called Supersport? And you are blaming me for making stuff up tsk tsk. MotoGP is where the real guys hang around. Such as Rossi and Hayden (Hayden who?).

What it comes to the technical choices there are of course different opinions (stupid and mine of course). I think there should be one set of rules and no arbitrary handicaps for silly people trying to push inferior designs. Let the race begin.

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That's nice. I think there should just be HP and weight rules and no worry about displacement or configuration.
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Old 03-12-2009, 04:43 PM   #46
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What are you talking about? MotoGP is called Supersport? And you are blaming me for making stuff up tsk tsk. MotoGP is where the real guys hang around. Such as Rossi and Hayden (Hayden who?).

What it comes to the technical choices there are of course different opinions (stupid and mine of course). I think there should be one set of rules and no arbitrary handicaps for silly people trying to push inferior designs. Let the race begin.

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No, foolio, you stated that the only series where the 675 is legal to race against 600cc supersports is probably in Boise, implying that no credible race body allows such a thing. Clearly you're not familiar with World Supersport, which is the world's premier class for production-based supersport bikes (you can get a hint from the name), or you're just willfully ignorant.

Seriously, do you pay any attention at all to your own drivel?

MotoGP and Moto2 are prototype classes and have much less relevance to road bikes. If you knew anything about the motivation behind forming the Moto2 class, which, you obviously don't, you'd understand why the rules are the way they are. I'm not going to explain again.

And the fact that MotoGP/Moto2 use fixed displacement limits for every type of engine configuration is, frankly, archaic. Remember who ultimately controls MotoGP: The Big Four, who have a vested interest in keeping displacement as the dictating factor. They already lost that battle in WSB/WSS.

I also would venture a guess that the fixed displacement is, in some part, to keep things simple for the fans. It's an easy way to let the average mouthbreather compare motorcycles. Looks like it works.
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Old 03-12-2009, 05:56 PM   #47
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So how would say a buell XB9R do against a CB600 in one of these races... hm, never liked racing much but that might be something i;d like to watch...
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Old 03-13-2009, 01:42 AM   #48
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No, foolio, you stated that the only series where the 675 is legal to race against 600cc supersports is probably in Boise, implying that no credible race body allows such a thing. Clearly you're not familiar with World Supersport, which is the world's premier class for production-based supersport bikes (you can get a hint from the name), or you're just willfully ignorant.

Seriously, do you pay any attention at all to your own drivel?

MotoGP and Moto2 are prototype classes and have much less relevance to road bikes. If you knew anything about the motivation behind forming the Moto2 class, which, you obviously don't, you'd understand why the rules are the way they are. I'm not going to explain again.

And the fact that MotoGP/Moto2 use fixed displacement limits for every type of engine configuration is, frankly, archaic. Remember who ultimately controls MotoGP: The Big Four, who have a vested interest in keeping displacement as the dictating factor. They already lost that battle in WSB/WSS.

I also would venture a guess that the fixed displacement is, in some part, to keep things simple for the fans. It's an easy way to let the average mouthbreather compare motorcycles. Looks like it works.
I may not pay any attention to the drivel I write but you dont seem to either. My comment about Boise Idaho implied that where it does not matter fixed cc:s may not be in place. Where it matters = MotoGP. Its the F1 of the motorcycle world.

Any innuendo of vested interest of big four is pure BS. Sure they have some but if you have any common sense you arrive at pretty much the same thing. Same rules for everyone, let the best team win.

If you look at F1, the purest form of motor sporting on the planet, they have strict rules. Formula One engines may be no more than 2.4 litres in capacity. They must have 8 cylinders in a 90-degree formation, with two inlet and two exhaust valves per cylinder. They must be normally aspirated, weigh at least 95 kilograms and be rev-limited to 18,000rpm.

Why is this? Is it the evil influence of the big four? Is it keeping things simple for the fans?

These guys a real pros and if you start suggesting giving some handicap to straight sixes or any such childish crap you are not getting anything but a friendly whack on the nuts. Its not for the lack of trying, there have been rules for example less-cc-for-turbos etc but it all resulted in *arbitrary* skewing of the results.

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Old 03-13-2009, 06:04 AM   #49
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If you look at F1, the purest form of motor sporting on the planet, they have strict rules. Formula One engines may be no more than 2.4 litres in capacity. They must have 8 cylinders in a 90-degree formation, with two inlet and two exhaust valves per cylinder. They must be normally aspirated, weigh at least 95 kilograms and be rev-limited to 18,000rpm.

Why is this? Is it the evil influence of the big four? Is it keeping things simple for the fans?

These guys a real pros and if you start suggesting giving some handicap to straight sixes or any such childish crap you are not getting anything but a friendly whack on the nuts. Its not for the lack of trying, there have been rules for example less-cc-for-turbos etc but it all resulted in *arbitrary* skewing of the results.

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You really need to look up the word "solipsism". It describes you to a T.

Once again, racing rules are entirely arbitrary. This is true of all forms of racing. If you want to confuse arbitrarily invented rules with divine inspiration, well, that's your problem.

I'm curious though. Why is it that you believe that big business interest are entirely evil and spread undue influence everywhere in the world except F1 racing?
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Old 03-13-2009, 06:27 AM   #50
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"I'm curious though. Why is it that you believe that big business interest are entirely evil and spread undue influence everywhere in the world except F1 racing?"


Because according to eurodope, F1 is 'the purest form of motor sporting". How he came to that conclusion I can't figure for the life of me.
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