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Old 07-21-2009, 08:47 PM   #41
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The Yamaha XJ6 is very much it's European derrivative, however it looks slightly different in the rear seat.

The differences between the FZ6R and supersport 600 ccs...
1) about 1/2 the peak hp (78 vs 135 ish), plus heavier by about 100 lbs
2) very very much less sensitive throttle and clutch ***
3) easy and comfortable riding position

The biggest issue is how sensitive supersports are. I just bought an FZ6R to replace my FZ6. I learned on the Ninja 250 and it was a very wise decision in retrospect.

Although the FZ6R is very much easier to ride than a 600 cc supersport (ie. R6), it is still safer to learn on a smaller (and cheaper/older) bike. It is still a very powerful machine to learn on, but some people could. I just don't condone it.

Still, it's slower than my FZ6 was, and it is great for everything it is intended to do. Very comfortable, respectable power (not utterly ubsurd), and quite affordable.

The closest competition is the Suzuki GSX650F. They are so very similar, it just comes down to visual and minor comfort differences. The Suzuki is also a few hundred dollars more here in Canada. The other bikes people have mentioned such as the Ninja 650R, GS500, Versys, SV650... are all V-twins. COMPLETELY difference engine characteristics, not necessarily safer.. they have more power at nearly all low to mid RPM ranges, but make less at the top.

Bottom line.. I love the FZ6R as my commuter and tourer. It looks better than my FZ6 but I sometimes miss the extra power/less weight/14K redline. It's certainly a bike you can't go wrong with.

(I hope I touched on topics that are relavent to people's interests). Safe riding!

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Old 07-22-2009, 05:17 AM   #42
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See. They replaced a good bike with an inferior one, just to sell to newbies who want all that plastic.
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Old 07-22-2009, 08:47 AM   #43
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The differences between the FZ6R and supersport 600 ccs...
1) about 1/2 the peak hp (78 vs 135 ish), plus heavier by about 100 lbs

The other bikes people have mentioned such as the Ninja 650R, GS500, Versys, SV650... are all V-twins. COMPLETELY difference engine characteristics, not necessarily safer.. they have more power at nearly all low to mid RPM ranges, but make less at the top.
For the record, the FZ6R produces a peak of about 65 hp at the wheel, similar to the Ninja 650/ER-6n and Gladius/SV. And it weighs about 25 lbs more. Compared to the revvier FZ6, the FZ6R has 20 horses less but is much more manageable than its peaky brother.
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Old 07-22-2009, 10:27 AM   #44
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Compared to the revvier FZ6, the FZ6R has 20 horses less but is much more manageable than its peaky brother.
Isn't that what a Power Commander is for (making it more manageable)?
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Old 07-22-2009, 10:29 AM   #45
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Isn't that what a Power Commander is for (making it more manageable)?
That and skirting the EPA emission laws!
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Old 07-22-2009, 10:35 AM   #46
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Yes, the FZ6R is more manageable in terms of more linear power distrubution throughout the RPM range, as well as in the sensitivity of the clutch and throttle. It is simply an easier to ride bike than the FZ6.

The trade-off is the FZ6 does make yes, about 20 hp peak more and weigh notably less. I, for one, don't miss the extra power too much because both bikes are still quite a bit faster than my commute allows. Who couldn't miss the 14K redline though?
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See. They replaced a good bike with an inferior one, just to sell to newbies who want all that plastic.
It isn't replaced, it's a less expensive alternative. They both still exist. Yamaha realized that there's a nice demand for inexpensive, but attractive and all-around reasonable commuting/touring bikes.
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Isn't that what a Power Commander is for (making it more manageable)?
The FZ6 has more issues than a PC can solve. A PC can't completely cure a lumpy, top-end-heavy powerband. Nor can it it fix a grabby clutch or excessive vibration. The FZ6R might not be as exciting as the FZ6, but it's a smoother, more livable streetbike, and it's a much better bike for newbs.
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It isn't replaced, it's a less expensive alternative. They both still exist.
Not in this country.
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