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Old 12-27-2008, 09:03 PM   #11
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How did it take three-plus days for me to figure out this article was posted? It never turned up in my "Quick Links - Today's Posts" selection until now.
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Old 12-27-2008, 09:14 PM   #12
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I wrote more about this on our blog
That "blog" link gets lost mighty easily. Especially if you start out on the home page or the main page of the forum. With the way the site works I don't even notice the main red bar navigation. I actually stared at the home page for five minutes before I realized the blog was on the main nav.
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Old 12-27-2008, 09:57 PM   #13
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Perhaps a different review format for the upcoming comparo is in order. The following events may be good yardsticks for the contestants.

1) Wheelie wars

Longest distance, 3 runs allowed, take the average length as the performance. Subjective comments concerning overall wheelieability, balance point, etc are always welcome!

2) Timed obstacle course

Concrete stairs, ramps, and of course speed bumps and/or curbs, overturned shopping carts, perhaps a concrete flood channel crossing capped off by some airtime at the top of the walls if you can keep the LAPD helicopters off you long enough

3) Standing circle burnout contest

Consisting of number of rotations, commentary on the quality of OEM tire smoke (aroma, thickness, overall smoke bouquet)

4) Overall off road capability with fleeing and eluding kept in mind.

Ability to climb grassy hills, cross medians and hurriedly slide under half open garage doors are fine points to consider.

I happily volunteer for guest tester duty. I do have more than minimal experience in the above outlined testing methodologies.

By the way, if you like the piddly WR250, ya better not ride an uncorked UpTite Husky dialed 510 SMR packing 30 more hp and probably 40 less pounds. Never had so much fun in a parking lot. Also never got so close to being thrown in jail. Whew. What a bad influence that bike is.

I don't know why nobody ever writes about the Huskys. They completely kick ass over every other single cylinder SM out there, KTM 525s included. Yes, the Husky is a race oriented bike, but they are quite reliable too, moreso than the KTM comp bikes by a long shot, and the more street oriented Husky 610 is reliable as rock. Heavy as one too, but lots of power. Not much love for that bike either.

Anyway, back to the point, come on Yamaha, build the 450 version already. 250cc here in thin air land Colorado? Bleh. Make it at least a 450 or nuthin.

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Old 12-28-2008, 01:15 AM   #14
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Perhaps a different review format for the upcoming comparo is in order. The following events may be good yardsticks for the contestants.

1) Wheelie wars

Longest distance, 3 runs allowed, take the average length as the performance. Subjective comments concerning overall wheelieability, balance point, etc are always welcome!

2) Timed obstacle course

Concrete stairs, ramps, and of course speed bumps and/or curbs, overturned shopping carts, perhaps a concrete flood channel crossing capped off by some airtime at the top of the walls if you can keep the LAPD helicopters off you long enough

3) Standing circle burnout contest

Consisting of number of rotations, commentary on the quality of OEM tire smoke (aroma, thickness, overall smoke bouquet)

4) Overall off road capability with fleeing and eluding kept in mind.

Ability to climb grassy hills, cross medians and hurriedly slide under half open garage doors are fine points to consider.

I happily volunteer for guest tester duty. I do have more than minimal experience in the above outlined testing methodologies.

By the way, if you like the piddly WR250, ya better not ride an uncorked UpTite Husky dialed 510 SMR packing 30 more hp and probably 40 less pounds. Never had so much fun in a parking lot. Also never got so close to being thrown in jail. Whew. What a bad influence that bike is.

I don't know why nobody ever writes about the Huskys. They completely kick ass over every other single cylinder SM out there, KTM 525s included. Yes, the Husky is a race oriented bike, but they are quite reliable too, moreso than the KTM comp bikes by a long shot, and the more street oriented Husky 610 is reliable as rock. Heavy as one too, but lots of power. Not much love for that bike either.

Anyway, back to the point, come on Yamaha, build the 450 version already. 250cc here in thin air land Colorado? Bleh. Make it at least a 450 or nuthin.
Great post, D. I would love to perform your test regimen! Not sure if I have the budget or the diplomatic immunity to make it happen...

The lack of Husky tests is bcuz they were pathetic with supporting media outlets. Now under BMW's umbrella, we're hoping to get some of 'em in our garage.

Yes, the WR250 would be a bit wheezy at CO altitude, and a 450 version would seem to make sense. But the 250 hardly vibrates (good on the highway), and it'll take on every DT2 it comes across!
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Old 12-28-2008, 05:52 AM   #15
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What was I thinking? I need to set my sights higher. Here's hoping they thrash the nuts off of these bikes (without major injury).
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Old 12-28-2008, 07:05 AM   #16
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300 lbs for a four stroke 250? Well that's par for the course I guess. Why Yamaha couldn't have paired it down some is a mystery to me. After all, my 1972 DT2 weighed 270 lbs. soaking wet. Surely technology has reached a point where a street bike of two fifty cee cees can weight well under 300 ponderous pounds? Hell, my '83 XL600S weighed 325 lbs. And my 1978 XL250S weighed in at 275. What, did they put lead in the frame tubes like a works Suzuki MXers to get the weight up to "acceptable" standards? "When it's heavy like that, it rides like a Caddy..." Someone set me straight!
Well, Matt, how much would you pay to watch one of these WR250Xs race a DT2?
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Old 12-28-2008, 08:33 AM   #17
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The recommended review of posted weights on manufactures sites brings this: Indeed some models by some manufactures list curb weight, some list dry weight and one model was listed as NA . Nice convention once it's implemented.

Since I'm looking for a used Sherpa set up as an Aussie ag bike I probably shouldn't have responded at all. Oh look the curb weight is 287 lbs and only 10.6 inches of travel! Yes the supermoto will blow it's doors, seat cover?, off.
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Old 12-28-2008, 11:21 AM   #18
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Well, Matt, how much would you pay to watch one of these WR250Xs race a DT2?
Maybe we could get Rossi and Bayliss as riders...
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Old 12-28-2008, 04:14 PM   #19
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The lack of Husky tests is bcuz they were pathetic with supporting media outlets. Now under BMW's umbrella, we're hoping to get some of 'em in our garage.
Makes sense.

Seriously, I have a buddy near you in Stanton with a sweet Husky 510 SMR that is just unbelieveable. He would love to show off his sick toy if you guys ever want to do a Husky story. Make sure your lawyer is warned ahead of time and that you have plenty of spare points on your license.

Better yet, go to Grange Raceway. A bit of gas money and buy him dinner and a beer or three. The cost of entry is quite low. The guy has a screaming sick CR125 shifter kart too. He is a good friend to know. I do miss California at times...
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Old 12-28-2008, 04:49 PM   #20
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"Well, Matt, how much would you pay to watch one of these WR250Xs race a DT2?"

If it was my DT2 and I was riding it, I can guarantee my old stone-age 250 would smoke it. Since the last time I raced it, It blew through the modern dual sport line in front of the vintage class, and came in 5th. Would have placed higher but I was dicing it out with some guy on a 450 Yamaha in the MX section, and ate it about 20 feet from the finish line on the last loop.

I was at the two stroke outing at Hansen dam in '06 and kicked a$$ on some hot looking RD250 twin on the street down foothill blvd. My 250 was stock, except for a GYT kit pipe, some good reeds with spot-on timing and jetting. I SPIT IN THE GENERAL DIRECTION OF YOUR FOUR STROKE!

Hah.
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