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Old 12-18-2008, 07:33 PM   #1
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Hello all

I've had my YZF-R6 for about a year and a half and was looking to move up to a 1000cc.

I was looking at a 2009 model, and I've been researching the 4 main choices, CBR1000RR, YZF-R1, GSXR1000, and the ZX10R. They are each very enticing, however I'm not sure on which one I should go with. They each have pros and cons. The new crossplane crankshaft of the R1 definitely kindles my interest and I love the aesthetics. However, I'm told if I'm looking for raw power, the Ninja is the way to go.

Perhaps it is too soon to tell which is best, some specs haven't even been released as of yet.
Any advice is much appreciated.

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Old 12-18-2008, 08:01 PM   #2
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They are all capable of going way faster than you ever could, or should, on a public road. So with that fact in hand it really doesn't matter which one you choose unless you race for money, then get the GSXR. If you just ride on the street, they are all the same because you will be riding at about 50% of the bikes' capability, and that is if you are really good. Pick the one you like at that point.
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Old 12-18-2008, 08:02 PM   #3
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What makes you think that a 1000 will be an "upgrade"?
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Old 12-19-2008, 12:03 AM   #4
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Well I plan to take it to the track more often than use as a form of transport.
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Old 12-19-2008, 04:33 AM   #5
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Well I plan to take it to the track more often than use as a form of transport.
Ok- you blew your hand there. A liter class bike may have more power, but that doesn't translate into good lap times on most track days tracks. You could get a GSXR750 and be within a tenth of the liter bike and possibly have a much more controlled ride. You could get a V-twin like a used RC51 or TL1000R and spend virtually no money compaired to current models. Advantage is you have no referrence point. So- you go out and ride the wheels off the RC51 and hang with those new R1s and Gixxers all day. Spend the money on decent suspension parts to suit your style and have it set up by a suspension expert like Traxxion Dynamics or Racetec. You'll be much happier spending $5800 on the bike and around $1500 for a "real" suspension when you throw it down the track. As a matter of fact, way better than you'd feel throwing a $12,000 2009 bike down the track. I'd almost bank on it.
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The TL1000R is one of my favorite bikes.
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Old 12-19-2008, 01:20 PM   #7
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They are all capable of going way faster than you ever could, or should, on a public road. So with that fact in hand it really doesn't matter which one you choose unless you race for money, then get the GSXR. If you just ride on the street, they are all the same because you will be riding at about 50% of the bikes' capability, and that is if you are really good. Pick the one you like at that point.
Now that's a Bald-Faced Lie!

If a man uses 20% on the street he's bound for Jail.............
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Well I plan to take it to the track more often than use as a form of transport.
Then you deffinatly want a 600 for your first track bike.

The bigger the bike the slower you'll go. I remember when I started racing with Wera in 1989 and if you were a novice the biggest bike they would let you race was 750cc.

Which track will you be doing trackdays at?
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Ok- you blew your hand there. A liter class bike may have more power, but that doesn't translate into good lap times on most track days tracks. You could get a GSXR750 and be within a tenth of the liter bike and possibly have a much more controlled ride. You could get a V-twin like a used RC51 or TL1000R and spend virtually no money compaired to current models. Advantage is you have no referrence point. So- you go out and ride the wheels off the RC51 and hang with those new R1s and Gixxers all day. Spend the money on decent suspension parts to suit your style and have it set up by a suspension expert like Traxxion Dynamics or Racetec. You'll be much happier spending $5800 on the bike and around $1500 for a "real" suspension when you throw it down the track. As a matter of fact, way better than you'd feel throwing a $12,000 2009 bike down the track. I'd almost bank on it.
Well said!
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Dam! You guys scared another one away again...
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