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Old 03-11-2009, 02:25 PM   #61
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Though 79.2 rwhp and 580 lbs doesn't sound terrific, it's a world away from the regular 1200R's 61.5 hp and 589 lbs! And don't even delude yourself into thinking any 1200 Sporty can hang, handling-wise, with the XR. Completely different league.
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Old 03-11-2009, 02:40 PM   #62
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Though 79.2 rwhp and 580 lbs doesn't sound terrific, it's a world away from the regular 1200R's 61.5 hp and 589 lbs! And don't even delude yourself into thinking any 1200 Sporty can hang, handling-wise, with the XR. Completely different league.

True enough. Only the XR is $1800 bucks more than the 1200R was. For that $1800, I think I could do pretty well on the power and handling scale, not to mention what you could do with an older solid mount Sporty. I am just disappointed that Harley didn't do something really fresh with this bike. New chassis, new motor, new SOMETHING! Make it light and crazy fast like the XR name has a right to be. It could have been such a cool launching point for something REALLY new. I guess I'm looking for too much here.
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Old 03-11-2009, 03:13 PM   #63
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Yeah, the rubber-mount Sporty chassis (and the engine) weighs too much. But the XR does have some new bits (swingarm, wheels, fork, brakes), and the motor is a huge improvement. Anyway, Harley typically has a tough time with the definition of "new."
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Old 03-11-2009, 06:36 PM   #64
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Preface: It's a 2 bike away purchase so let's not get too critical. But when the time comes its competitor for my money only weighs about 360 pounds. Of course it doesn't come with all those optional hard bags . Thank goodness the next purchase is pretty well locked in, it's the one after that's still pretty vague.
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Old 03-11-2009, 07:39 PM   #65
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At least it's a pretty turd.
Myth Busters proved you can, indeed, get sh!t to shine. Funny episode.
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Old 03-11-2009, 07:56 PM   #66
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So when you ride it it has more than 85 horsepower and weighs less than 580 lbs? Or does it just have that standing still? Just asking before I deliver my definitive opinion. Harley no longer sells the 1200R because nobody would pay the extra money for the XR if they rode them back to back. They did so little with so much.
Jeez. Lighten up, LR. Harley-Davidson makes the best 1957-era motorcycle you can buy!
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Old 03-11-2009, 08:33 PM   #67
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So, I went down to the local H-D shop yesterday to purchase a maintenance manual for the Uly. When I opened the door to the showroom, guess what I saw! A shiny, new XR1200! I asked the salesperson if I could sit on it. Here is my impression (after riding 30 miles from work to the shop on the Uly):

The bike is still top-heavy. The reviews have been quite positive, and true, I didn't ride it. Nevertheless, taking it off of the side-stand and wiggling it quickly from side to side reveals its weight.

Also, the wheelbase is long (compared to the Uly). I asked what the dimensions were - noone in the dealership knew the answer. I haven't looked it up yet, but by the seat of my pants it felt at least 4 inches longer that my Uly. The five-minute sit test showed the seat to be quite comfy, but the footpegs could stand to be moved further rearward, at least for my lanky legs.

Overall, the bike has a nice presence - especially in the H-D orange. Immediately after sitting on the XR1200, I went over to sit on the new Buell 1125CR - to me a much lighter, better balanced and more comfortable bike than the XR. If I were dropping $11,500 (MSRP was about the same) on a new bike, I would hands down chose the 1125CR.
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Still a turd. Such a waste of a good name. I'd rather have this one.
Haven't read the April issue of Motorcyclist, have ya?
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Old 03-12-2009, 05:37 AM   #69
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I sure did. I'll take XR1000 any day of the week over the new one and twice on Sunday. If they actually have one, I'll take it off their hands any time they want to get rid of it.
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Old 03-12-2009, 11:12 AM   #70
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From Motorcyclist:
-Fantasy shattered by reality
-Incorrigible handling
-Heinous vibration
-legendarily unreliable
-careening from one disappointment to the next

You'll also note a slower quarter-mile ET than the new XR's.

It looks cooler than it rides.
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