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seruzawa 10-20-2008 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenneth_Moore (Post 196266)
But that's just the point, you accept 'free stuff' every day, stuff that is paid for by taxpayers. Unless you don't use the roads, rely on the police and fire departments, send your kids to school, eat government subsidized farm crops, ride in airplanes controlled by the FAA...that's just the stuff that's off the top of my head. That's the big flaw in pure Libertarianism, virtually nobody in this nation is self sufficient, thus to act like you are is a fantasy.

Sure, there are abuses in the system where undeserving people benefit. But I'd rather deal with the tiny percentage of abuse than to see the country turn into some sort of Social-Darwinist death camp. BTW: do you know what recent Presidency had the lowest number of citizens on Welfare? Was it Regan? Bush 1 or 2? Nixon? None of the above. Clinton did.

Oh right. Clinton would have reduced the welfare roles if the Republicans hadn't controlled the House and Senate. The Dems would have done it on their own. LOL! Tiny percentage of abuse? ROTFL! The fed spent over $400K per Katrina victim and they are still screaming for more. They wasted the money for building levees in patronage. Tiny percentage of abuse.... no way. It is gargantuan and epidemic.

Longride and I and you and anyone else who works are the ones who pay. We get no "free stuff" from the govt. Due to crushing confiscatory taxes we take home about 1/3 of our potential earnings at best. Most people who work do. The rest is stolen by bureaucrats, given to foreign despots, the lazy, drug addicts, etc. But the vast majority is eaten by the millions of govt time servers and NGOs. Who do you think pays fot it? The govt has no money. Only debt.

Social Darwinism? LOL! What? You mean maybe the "poor" might not have two color TVs and might have to make do without a cell phone?

Americans are the most generous people on Earth. They are raped by politicians for trillions in destructive social programs and still give more in personal charitable contributions than the entire world combined. And then when they finally say, "Enough!", smarmy arrogant politicians and worthless criminal bureaucrats accuse them of being mean-spirited. Screw them.

mscuddy 10-20-2008 05:53 PM

I'm am going to tape Obama's concession speach and play it over and over for all my ultra liberal immigrant friends who tried to vote the fraud in, because whether you like it or not, this is still a center-right country full of God fearing gun toting toothless in-breeds who can smell a rat a mile away. We won't get fooled again, Mr. Obama. I can't wait to see all the sad faces of knee-jerk liberals who wanted a black man with radical anti-govt. leanings in his background to be our next president. BOO HOO!

Maybe David Palmer, but Barak Hussein Obama? Nah...not in this lifetime.

longride 10-21-2008 06:02 AM

Damn Sarnali, you are sounding like a right-wing nut job! Nice!

seruzawa 10-21-2008 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by longride (Post 196278)
Damn Sarnali, you are sounding like a right-wing nut job! Nice!

Next thing we know he'll be following Joe Biden's lead and worrying about how dangerous Barack Hussein Obama would be in foreign affairs.

Kenneth_Moore 10-21-2008 07:12 AM

So if you really think that the poor people in this country have such a great free ride, why the hell are you working? Because you know damn well that it's BS, that the other side of the tracks sucks.

sarnali2 10-21-2008 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by seruzawa (Post 196280)
Next thing we know he'll be following Joe Biden's lead and worrying about how dangerous Barack Hussein Obama would be in foreign affairs.



Actually I'm a left wing nut job and a true socialist, I just can't stand stupid lazy f*ckers drunks and dopers

seruzawa 10-21-2008 08:06 AM

Dude.
 
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Originally Posted by sarnali2 (Post 196282)
Actually I'm a left wing nut job and a true socialist, I just can't stand stupid lazy f*ckers drunks and dopers

You just gave the perfect oxymoron! Well done! Have a Guiness!

sarnali2 10-21-2008 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by seruzawa (Post 196284)
You just gave the perfect oxymoron! Well done! Have a Guiness!


Hey Thanks!

longride 10-21-2008 11:02 AM

Get me one while you are in the fridge.

longride 10-21-2008 11:05 AM

So how much extra you going to pitch in to make their lives better Ken? How about paying my share too, since you are in such a charitable mood this morning? Bet that won't happen! I'm FROM the other side of the tracks. I understand the mentality of the people that live there lots better than you do. They are there for a reason. They don't want anything better, other than what some idiot will give them. It's like buying a drunk a drink. You will run out of money before he tells you to stop. Giving the lazy money just insures they will remain lazy, and they will never tell you to stop. Forcing them to work or starve will give them a real nice incentive to get off their ass. Welfare is a deep hole. It just creates more recipients, and the hole just keeps getting deeper.


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