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Old 10-09-2008, 08:54 AM   #1
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http://www.newmediajournal.us/daily_...s/10092008.htm

This put to rest the phony cover that Obama and his shills and running dogs have been promoting.
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Old 10-09-2008, 09:36 AM   #2
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The New Media Journal | Obama Held Membership in Socialist New Party

This put to rest the phony cover that Obama and his shills and running dogs have been promoting.
Probably just more people in his neighborhood. He didn't really know any of 'em.
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Old 10-09-2008, 09:40 AM   #3
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Even if those stories are true, those articles seem to associate a democratic socialist party with "socialism." Democratic Socialist parties are common in Europe, and although they tend to be to the left of center they are not at all the same as "socialism" in the sense of communism.
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Old 10-09-2008, 09:47 AM   #4
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Even if those stories are true, those articles seem to associate a democratic socialist party with "socialism." Democratic Socialist parties are common in Europe, and although they tend to be to the left of center they are not at all the same as "socialism" in the sense of communism.
Socialism is just communism without all the murdering.
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Old 10-09-2008, 09:53 AM   #5
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I don't think he could have done anything like that. He is a constitutional scholar, and a staunch defender of the Second Amendment (choke choke). We gonna get 'change' all right kinda like a new convict in jail gets 'change'.
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Even if those stories are true, those articles seem to associate a democratic socialist party with "socialism." Democratic Socialist parties are common in Europe, and although they tend to be to the left of center they are not at all the same as "socialism" in the sense of communism.
I'm not big on bashing either candidate, but I do have a hatred towards the ineffectiveness of both parties.

But the Democratic Socialist party IS socialism. And socialism is not the same as communism. Never has been.

Socialism is "liberal". The claimed goal is to get "everyone" involved and have a say in how the economy and society works. Which usually fails as it almost always LEADS TO communism which is extremely conservative. Very few people have any say in how the economy and society works, which leads to a dictatorship control of government and society.

Socialisms distribution’s claims and goals do not work as most people have a driving force to better themselves whether for their own good or out of an ego to be better than everyone else. In socialism this aspect is eliminated (and usually fails to do so). So advances and growth in society and the economy usually grind to a halt.

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Socialism is just communism without all the murdering.
Except for babies and the elderly.
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Old 10-09-2008, 10:20 AM   #8
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I'll take my chances. The odds of Pres Palin if Johnny gets elected are far to great, and down right terrifying. I liked McCain in 00, but I don't know this McCain in 08. Just like Folgers Crystals "We've secretly replaced John McCain with a Rovian stooge, lets see is anyone will notice." His flip flopping makes Kerry look down right set in his ways and its all on tape, so no talking point there. Republicans are no longer recognizable as the party they are supposed to be. I would love to vote republican (small gov, fiscally responsible, etc) unfortunately we don't have that option any more. Ron Paul is close but way off on other bases.

Love how the National Debt counter had to add another digit, stocks are nearing the 8k mark and AIG while now getting more billions are going on another retreat next week. Not saying the dems are any better but they don't scare me as much.
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Obama was also head of the deadly "Grade 2" Weathermen cell when he was 8. A lot of people don't know that; you just can't get the truth from the Liberal Media.
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I'm not big on bashing either candidate, but I do have a hatred towards the ineffectiveness of both parties.

But the Democratic Socialist party IS socialism. And socialism is not the same as communism. Never has been.

Socialism is "liberal". The claimed goal is to get "everyone" involved and have a say in how the economy and society works. Which usually fails as it almost always LEADS TO communism which is extremely conservative. Very few people have any say in how the economy and society works, which leads to a dictatorship still of government and society.

Socialisms distribution’s claims and goals do not work as most people have a driving force to better themselves whether for their own good or out of an ego to be better than everyone else. In socialism this aspect is eliminated (and usually fails to do so). So advances and growth in society and the economy usually grind to a halt.
Socialism can't work and has never worked. Sure, they can cook the numbers and pretend everything is fine. But the result is a society that punishes workers in favor of looters. Shortages become commonplace. Eventually with no incentive no one works and the whole shebang collapses. Currently the entire Rat Party and much of the Pube Party are made up of looters. Looting is the raison de'etre of the Rats. It's the glue that holds it together. Looting to prop up incompetently run businesses is a forte' of the Pubes.

Where is John Galt, anyhow?
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