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Old 06-28-2013, 08:21 AM   #11
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The Clunk is on purpose because that's what their demographic wants. Do you really believe they couldn't figure out how to align a set of gears? Try popping your Honda into first when it's cold.

I agree it's stupid to engineer in "flaws" but that's what the nostalgia crowd wants and they pay good money to get it, the Japanese have done the same thing in their copy cat bikes. Go take a 2013 model Harley for a test drive then tell us what a piece of sh*t it is. Conversely if your basing your opinion on a Shovelhead or Evo, then take an similar model year Japanese bike for a spin and see how "modern" it feels.
I've ridden every model HD makes as current as 2012 (thank you Bike Week). Hell I sold them for a year at "The World's Largest Harley Dealership." I have no beef with them; they're good bikes, IF that's what you want. But please, let's not pretend they're something they aren't.

As for my Honda, it has the slickest, smoothest gearbox I've ever ridden, cold, warm, or hot. More than one reviewer has called it the one of best transmissions on the market today. You go ride a CB 1100 and get back to me. If you don't agree, I'll ship you a case of Anchor Steam or whatever other brew you like.
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Old 06-28-2013, 02:09 PM   #12
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I've ridden every model HD makes as current as 2012 (thank you Bike Week). Hell I sold them for a year at "The World's Largest Harley Dealership." I have no beef with them; they're good bikes, IF that's what you want. But please, let's not pretend they're something they aren't.

As for my Honda, it has the slickest, smoothest gearbox I've ever ridden, cold, warm, or hot. More than one reviewer has called it the one of best transmissions on the market today. You go ride a CB 1100 and get back to me. If you don't agree, I'll ship you a case of Anchor Steam or whatever other brew you like.

That's not necessary, I've ridden a few Honda's including a new Goldwing in '08 and was suitably impressed, I don't doubt yours is everything you say it is. In my experience most bikes clunk into gear when they're cold, if yours doesn't then it is indeed a well made example.

For me and my money Harley's work the best, many people who've never even ridden one are full of stories. Since you have ridden them your opinion is just as valid as mine and if they're not your cuppa' tea, well fair enough.

My usual summertime brew is Kokanee from British Columbia, it's probably not available outside the Northwest but it's a good crisp lager style beer, perfect for hot weather. Alaskan Amber is another good summer beer. I've never tried Anchor Steam I'm afraid..
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Old 06-28-2013, 08:25 PM   #13
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My Sporty shifts with a thunderous CLUNK!, but it's hella more positive than the notchy-ass shifter on my Bandit.
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Old 06-28-2013, 10:07 PM   #14
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Eh. Stop yer whinin'. Try the 1967 Ductai 250 with a tranny that was literally impossible to get into neutral with the bike stopped at idle and a couple of false neutrals too boot.
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Old 06-29-2013, 08:01 AM   #15
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So they ran out of shims, what's a little gear slop and a few extra Neutrals among Ducatisti?....
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Old 06-29-2013, 02:53 PM   #16
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"When you shift gears, the transmission shafts change ratios and spin at different speeds than in the previous gear. When you shift up or down, the tranny input shaft must change it's rotational speed to match the output shaft before the gear dogs can slip into the holes in the near gear. That's what causes the clunk when you shift gears. When you rev the engine when downshifting, you cause the input shaft to spin faster before the dogs try to engage. When you have the speed right, it shifts without any clunk at all." ---bikincowboy .......circa 2012

My roadster clunks when initially dropping into first. I thought this a feature of a dry clutch. When shifting aggressively going into a corner every once and a while I get a little wheel hop. The next bike will have a wet clutch with slipper feature and ASC.
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