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NINETY-NINE!!!!!11!!!!!!11!!!
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![]() I checked out the "$500 Lease" claim for the model S. Reality was $1200 a month minus gas, time to pump gas and a few other numbers they pulled out of their rears. Bummer as I'd be on one so fast it would make your head spin. 200 mile range is 99% of our driving.
Many EV's out there under 40k now (though they are hovering around the 100 mile figure). Since we've been new car shopping Ive seen the EV focus, Fit, Rav 4 and of course the Leaf on the local lots. Charging stations are popping up all over and "there's an app for that." My buddy is really digging their Rav4, though roasting the tires will cost you a hand full of miles. Same as my old muscle cars in that respect. His wife is handling her 65 mile commute without issue and they just got their solar installed. So they are happy as clams. They are saving money now over the same commute with their Highlander hybred and their meter is running backwards during the day. |
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![]() As a city/suburban ride they may make sense. What you don't spend on gas you will spend on electricity. Cost to charge vs. miles per charge. That is a more valid metric.
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For my use it would take about 30 years as my wife and I have a small home, no kids or AC and use very little power. PG&E lobbied CA to not pay you for your power adding to the grid. What they do is settle up at the end of the year. If you use more power than you produced, you pay for the power. If you produced more than you used, you get no bill and PG&E thank you for your donation to the grid. For us we'd definitely be giving to PG&E or it would pay off for us quicker as we'd be a power producer. Last edited by 12er : 05-10-2013 at 07:10 PM. |
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The EV's are labeled with MPG equivilants and most are around the 100 - 120mpg range. That is if you believe the EPAs math. With every auto maker pumping out EV's they are going to take off pretty quickly as things are changing fast. "What about battery pack longevity" uh, lease for now... Though I forsee it to be easy enough to create a retro pack down the road if battery tech takes off. Tesla's technology is now down from over 100k (roadster) to 40k (EV rav4) in 10 years. Just as a 45 in plasma in 2001 was 12k, blue ray, dvd, cd players were a grand when they came out. So just like everything but economics the tech is trickling down to the masses and gaining speed daily. |
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