Tesla trouble report a fake I tell you.

[jmdonald]

If we can just get a Government stipend of some kind we can use those funds to finance investments and/or motorcycle purchases. They don't need to know that the money they are sending us isn't being used for it's intended purpose. We will also be able to rationalize it in our own minds. Kind of like child support in a divorce. Yeah, lets buy up some alternative energy stocks. The Government is borrowing the money anyway. That makes it OK.

[The Spaceman]

Originally Posted by Buzglyd

Of course, you drive a 40 year old replica car and now a 40 year old replica bike. So I guess "emerging" technology doesn't mean much to you.

The only thing the Mini and Honda have in common with their ancestors is appearance. The technology on both is completely modern. But you already knew that.

[Buzglyd]

Originally Posted by The Spaceman

The only thing the Mini and Honda have in common with their ancestors is appearance. The technology on both is completely modern. But you already knew that.

A Prius gets double the mileage at a lower cost but I guess the environment isn't really one of the buttons you press.

[seruzawa]

Bottom line: They suck. No better chemical batteries are forecast, except as some sort of faith-based hope and prayer that also depends on an unending font of borrowed and depreciating cash. Enjoy them until the Federal subsidies run out.

[The Spaceman]

Originally Posted by Buzglyd

A Prius gets double the mileage at a lower cost but I guess the environment isn't really one of the buttons you press.

Yeah, my Mini is a poster-child for extravagent energy use. It barely averages over 30mpg! Not to mention the hassle of trying to squeeze the thing into parking spots, "Green" people yelling at me when I'm gassing up...it's embarassing.

At least I have friends at the weekend mud-bogs and truck-pull meets who understand.

[sarnali2]

I think he has a point though Ken, the Prius is the de facto Official Green Car to own. It's a viable and useful vehicle, not some short range full electric that needs charging every 15 minutes. It's widely available, reasonably priced and a Toyota for Christs sake... the very paragon of feel-good corporate benevolance, and yet when the time came to lay down your own coin you went for a fun somewhat impracticle Mini over the obvious Green choice.

With all your enviromental tub thumping it does smack just a little bit as hypocricy......

[jmdonald]

My green car is a Z06 Corvette. It only uses 4cylinders at 80 mph.

[The_AirHawk]

Originally Posted by jmdonald

My green car is a Z06 Corvette. It only uses 4cylinders at 80 mph.

Mine is a Bullitt Mustang - I've gotten nearly 27mpg out of it, the thing is a brute and can annihilate the rear tires at will in the first three gears....

(Dark Highland Green, that is!)

[seruzawa]

"Cars"? What are "cars"?

[sarnali2]

Originally Posted by seruzawa

"Cars"? What are "cars"?

Horesless Carriages my Good Man.... The Motor Car...


I traded in my fuel efficient low emission Ford Fusion for another gas guzzling SUV myself, the realities of my life other than commuting when it's cold and rainy showed that a car alone just won't work for me. I either need a car and a 4x4 pick-up or a 4x4 SUV to do all the crap I like doing. The car was comfy and good on gas and...umm.. that's about it.

With the '10 Explorer I got I can haul a ton of junk or camping gear, go bashing around logging roads, get around in the snow or haul grand kids around with all their junk. The only thing it doesn't do is get good gas mileage, fortunately I ride the Heritage most of the time anyway and that gets 40+ so while the 17 the Explorer gets is a little spendy it's not really a daily driver except for a few months in the winter.

It all comes out even in the end