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Old 10-07-2011, 09:49 AM   #11
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I haven't seen anything that changes my opinion that Jobs changed the world. Nobody is saying other people haven't done great things with PCs and the 'net as well, but the internet couldn't happen without PCs to connect to it. The WWW runs on PCs. The fact that you can post your thoughts here today is a direct result of Jobs and Wozniak's creation of the PC.
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Old 10-07-2011, 10:12 AM   #12
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All this assumes that no one else would ever have thought of a GUI. It's not like Jobs was the only guy working on it, just the successful one. Eventually it would have happened.

If he hadn't been a snob and had allowed cloning of his systems he would have crushed Microsoft.
THey did allow cloning while Jobs was gone and almost went out of business.

There is a big difference between market share and profit.

I'll take profit over market share any day.
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Old 10-07-2011, 10:14 AM   #13
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I haven't seen anything that changes my opinion that Jobs changed the world. Nobody is saying other people haven't done great things with PCs and the 'net as well, but the internet couldn't happen without PCs to connect to it. The WWW runs on PCs. The fact that you can post your thoughts here today is a direct result of Jobs and Wozniak's creation of the PC.
Let this day be marked! I agree with Kenneth!

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Old 10-07-2011, 10:18 AM   #14
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The fact that you can post your thoughts here today is a direct result of Jobs and Wozniak's creation of the PC.
Oh. So you're saying, "Burn in Hell, you Schizuki-enabling bastard."
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Old 10-07-2011, 10:24 AM   #15
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Let this day be marked! I agree with Kenneth!
Just remember, Buz, it's like sex. By agreeing with Kenneth you've agreed with everyone he's ever agreed with.
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Old 10-07-2011, 10:35 AM   #16
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Just remember, Buz, it's like sex. By agreeing with Kenneth you've agreed with everyone he's ever agreed with.
You can be pretty damn funny for a jackboot wearing right-wing Neo-Nazi.
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Old 10-07-2011, 01:48 PM   #17
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There is a big difference between market share and profit.

I'll take profit over market share any day.
I whole heartedly agree. The market share at any cost like Keynesian economics is is a loser strategy that unfortunately is still being pushed today.
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Old 10-07-2011, 02:17 PM   #18
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Whatever your opinion of Steve Jobs, that GUI and mouse thing he "stole" from Xerox PARC. He did not come up with it. He did make it mainstream.
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THey did allow cloning while Jobs was gone and almost went out of business.

There is a big difference between market share and profit.

I'll take profit over market share any day.
By then it was waaay too late. I'm talking about the 80s and 90s when Windows3.1 and 95 were the main competition. Those systems were horribly unreliable. I'd have bought a Mac myself if they weren't twice as much as a Microsoft system PC.
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Wasn't it Tim Berners-Lee who was really responsible for making it accessible with the WWW?
It was Algore if I recall correctly.
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