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Old 01-08-2010, 12:42 PM   #1
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Rudy Giuliani lies and says there never was a domestic attack under George Bush. What about 9/11? | Crooks and Liars
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Old 01-08-2010, 01:14 PM   #2
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Oh, c'mon - obviously he meant after 9/11. Jeez.

By keying on that silliness, you miss the chance to make several actually legitimate points.

One is right in the article itself - there is no difference between the underwear bomber and the shoe bomber except the article of clothing they used. So Bush did no better than Obama, and vice-versa.

Look, it's ridiculous to credit Bush with the lack of successful post-9/11 attacks, and it will be ridiculous to criticize Obama if there is a successful one. The big difference between Obama and Bush is that Obama is idiotically and dangerously treating it as a law enforcement issue. Now we won't be able to squeeze Abdulunderoo for intel.

There was another difference previously, in that Bush made no bones we were at war, but Obama seems to be waking up, finally.

Except for that - you've got Predator drone attacks, you've got Gitmo still running, you've got the Patriot Act still in effect, and you've got intelligence services that still can't put together a four-piece preschool level jigsaw puzzle. So for good and bad, we've still got pretty much the same policies. And in both administrations, there have been successes and failures.

But if you want to ignore all of that and reduce it all to portraying an obvious goes-without-saying pseudo-gaffe as a "lie", knock yourself out. Seems a little simplistic to me.
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Old 01-08-2010, 01:18 PM   #3
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Equal time proves the HL Mencken rule:

"Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule - and both commonly succeed, and are right."

Which I have been saying all along. It's way past time for both the Republicans and Democrats to be replaced with people who are intelligent and honest.
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