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Old 12-04-2009, 06:38 PM   #11
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Back to Global warming. Don't you love the fact that idiot Al cancelled his trip to Denmark and today it snowed in Houston (Bush Country!)?
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Old 12-04-2009, 06:39 PM   #12
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That being said it still reduces a person's moral authority when they are caught out for being an addict.
See, that's the part I don't understand. A person doesn't get addicted to painkillers by choice. He takes them for pain and gets addicted. He didn't take them for fun. How is anyone's moral authority, good name, or reputation compromised in any way by this?

It's bad enough someone is in pain. To judge them because they became addicted to the substance that relieved that pain is unreasonable, unfair and just plain mean-spirited. I don't get it.
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Old 12-04-2009, 10:33 PM   #13
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See, that's the part I don't understand. A person doesn't get addicted to painkillers by choice. He takes them for pain and gets addicted. He didn't take them for fun. How is anyone's moral authority, good name, or reputation compromised in any way by this?

It's bad enough someone is in pain. To judge them because they became addicted to the substance that relieved that pain is unreasonable, unfair and just plain mean-spirited. I don't get it.
It is if he spends time casting aspersions on others' character. Limbaugh was getting prescriptions from multiple doctors.

When you set yourself up as a moral judge and call for strict enforcement of drug laws then it's a bit disingenuous to shop doctors in your spare time.
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Old 12-05-2009, 05:17 AM   #14
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"To judge them because they became addicted to the substance that relieved that pain is unreasonable, unfair and just plain mean-spirited. I don't get it."

Yes, you get it. Remember that the Liberals and Dems are the 'tolerant' party.........which means tolerant of anyone that agrees with them. If you don't, then the name calling starts. Rush and Palin scare the hell out of these people, so they get taken down at every opportunity.
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Old 12-05-2009, 09:49 AM   #15
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It is if he spends time casting aspersions on others' character. Limbaugh was getting prescriptions from multiple doctors.

When you set yourself up as a moral judge and call for strict enforcement of drug laws then it's a bit disingenuous to shop doctors in your spare time.
Right, but that's AFTER the unsought addiction.

I hate heroin addicts. I'd still hate them if somebody shot me up against my will and got me addicted. And I'd probably seek more heroin, because the addiction wouldn't exactly make my thought processes clear.

Believe me, if Limbaugh was on coke, or meth, or any other recreational drug, I'd be right with you. I just can't gin up outrage for people in pain who get addicted to the most addictive class of drugs.

BTW, I have the greatest admiration for people with a genetic predisposition to addiction who conquer it. It's easy for me because I don't have that. If Rush does, then again, I'm not going to agree with condemnations when it's a drug he didn't initially seek for fun.
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BTW, I live in Maine, which is chock full of deadbeats who fake injuries to get on disability. We also have one of the highest rates of oxycontin addiction. I'd bet a million bucks that one follows the other - the deadbeats get a prescription for their fake pain, they say "What the hell, I'll pop one of these to see what it's like", then end up deadbeat druggies.

These people should burn in hell.
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Right, but that's AFTER the unsought addiction.

I hate heroin addicts. I'd still hate them if somebody shot me up against my will and got me addicted. And I'd probably seek more heroin, because the addiction wouldn't exactly make my thought processes clear.

Believe me, if Limbaugh was on coke, or meth, or any other recreational drug, I'd be right with you. I just can't gin up outrage for people in pain who get addicted to the most addictive class of drugs.

BTW, I have the greatest admiration for people with a genetic predisposition to addiction who conquer it. It's easy for me because I don't have that. If Rush does, then again, I'm not going to agree with condemnations when it's a drug he didn't initially seek for fun.
I'm not heavy on Limbaugh about this. I'm more disappointed than condemning. Don't confuse me with the fanatics. I want to see the drug war ended because it is a complete failure. You read about big drug busts from time to time but the street price of drugs doesn't change. This means that the flow of drugs is basically unhindered no matter what the cops do.

Time to end it and the corruption of law that followed it.
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Old 12-05-2009, 07:41 PM   #18
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Well there's a good argument for legalization:

#1: Some people will never abuse drugs.
#2: Some people will lightly abuse drugs, and function just fine
#3: Others will over abuse drugs, go straight down the tubes and die.

Wether it's legal, or not. Look at Spain & Italy back in the 70's. Everything was legal. You could buy a big bottle of about any upper or downer without a prescription.

Except there was no organized crime making money off it, and the govt. got tax money from it. Again, those who didn't want drugs didn't buy any, those who wanted a slight buzz every now and then bought some, and those junkies who overdid it died.

LEGAL OR NOT.
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Just want to say there is nothing like MGD and Single Barrel Jack for getting jacked up. F*cken A.
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I'm all for legalization. I love Darwinism.

Provided that we close down any government-funded treatment centers. Do what you want, just don't expect me to pay for the consequences.
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