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Old 11-03-2009, 02:31 PM   #11
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I've been a HST fan since I was a kid. My cousin who gave me my first ride (on a 60's BSA in L.A.) had it on a cross-country camping trip. I read it then and again a couple of times since then. Have you ever read his political stuff like Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail? The stuff he wrote on Edmund Muskie's Ibogain drug habit was hysterical. He even took a limo ride with then-candidate **** Nixon, that was another memorable passage.
No, I've read Hell's Angels and Fear and Loathing as well as his last, unfinished passages that were published in Playboy a few years back. I also heard that he secured an interview with Nixon only if they talked about football?

I wonder what Thompson would have had to say about Barger on a Triumph.
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Old 11-03-2009, 03:16 PM   #12
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I saw this on the History Channel. It was part of the show, "Hillbillies" (or something close) which was hosted by Billy Ray Cyrus.

He called it "The War You Never Heard Of".

Battle of Blair Mountain - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oh, and the striking miners all wore red neckerchiefs. They were called "Rednecks."

Here is a link to the HC site: Hillbilly: The Real Story
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Old 11-03-2009, 04:04 PM   #13
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I saw this on the History Channel. It was part of the show, "Hillbillies" (or something close) which was hosted by Billy Ray Cyrus.

He called it "The War You Never Heard Of".

Battle of Blair Mountain - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oh, and the striking miners all wore red neckerchiefs. They were called "Rednecks."

Here is a link to the HC site: Hillbilly: The Real Story
I saw that too! It was amazing...an entire county of workers at war with a private army funded by the running dog capitalist pigs.
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Old 11-03-2009, 09:20 PM   #14
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American history can be summed up in two words; Manifest Destiny..

From the very beginnings the European settlers believed down to their boots that God was not only on their side but had given them carte` blanche to subjugate and conquer the entire continent and to eliminate and enslave any lesser races that happened to be in the way. Since we did such a bang up job of that we have run out of enemies so the government now turns on it's own people with repressive laws, taxation and punishment. The government has become an all consuming monster as John Kay so eloquently put it 40 years ago...


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Old 11-05-2009, 04:10 PM   #15
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I saw this on the History Channel. It was part of the show, "Hillbillies" (or something close) which was hosted by Billy Ray Cyrus.

He called it "The War You Never Heard Of".

Battle of Blair Mountain - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oh, and the striking miners all wore red neckerchiefs. They were called "Rednecks."

Here is a link to the HC site: Hillbilly: The Real Story
REALLY good find, you were right, I had never heard of that. Here's one along the same lines, and it's the anniversary, no less!

The Everett Massacre

Another union/labor related dispute, this time a gunfight being volleyed between a dock and at least two boats in Washington State, Nov. 5 1916.
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Old 11-05-2009, 06:01 PM   #16
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American history can be summed up in two words; Manifest Destiny..

From the very beginnings the European settlers believed down to their boots that God was not only on their side but had given them carte` blanche to subjugate and conquer the entire continent and to eliminate and enslave any lesser races that happened to be in the way. Since we did such a bang up job of that we have run out of enemies so the government now turns on it's own people with repressive laws, taxation and punishment. The government has become an all consuming monster as John Kay so eloquently put it 40 years ago...


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Fairy tales like "Dances With Wolves" notwithstanding the fact is that the American Indian population was made up of human beings, just as flawed as the rest of us. Many of them were brutal with war and torture being a favored pastime. Entire villages were killed from time to time. Tribes would move and kill and drive off all the other tribes in their path. They have no moral altitude from which to criticize anyone else.

If the US Govt is mutating into the Borg collective you need look no farther than your neighbors who rush to vote for anyone who promises them free stuff if you are looking for the cause.
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140 years ago today....

the first college football game was played.

That's a very loose description of the actual event, but it's still recognized as the first college game ever: Rutgers vs. Princeton, 1869
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Fairy tales like "Dances With Wolves" notwithstanding the fact is that the American Indian population was made up of human beings, just as flawed as the rest of us. Many of them were brutal with war and torture being a favored pastime. Entire villages were killed from time to time. Tribes would move and kill and drive off all the other tribes in their path. They have no moral altitude from which to criticize anyone else.

If the US Govt is mutating into the Borg collective you need look no farther than your neighbors who rush to vote for anyone who promises them free stuff if you are looking for the cause.


Most of the time they moved because they had hunted out and polluted the area they lived in so bad they had no choice. The only difference between them and the Europeans was the Europeans had marginally better weapons.
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Most of the time they moved because they had hunted out and polluted the area they lived in so bad they had no choice. The only difference between them and the Europeans was the Europeans had marginally better weapons.
Hmmm, not sure about that The Europeans had a much more limited environment to operate in; the Indians could hunt and trash an area and move on to new grounds, where in Europe they fought over the same turf for millenia.
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Most of the time they moved because they had hunted out and polluted the area they lived in so bad they had no choice. The only difference between them and the Europeans was the Europeans had marginally better weapons.
And the Europeans were able to work together in large numbers. A large army of people trained to work together can always defeat any number of individual warriors no matter how individually superior the warriors are.
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