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Old 06-10-2009, 07:17 AM   #1
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Drop out of school... run GM.

Just like the Nazis and their cronyist system.

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Old 06-10-2009, 07:38 AM   #2
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I think you are being a little tough on this. This guy was hand-picked by Obamalama himself, and we know that 'The Messiah' has never been wrong. Why worry?
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Yeah. Those guys with decades of experience in the automotive business who were running GM were doing just fine. And Chrysler too. Why'd they even mess with such strong, winning companies anyway?
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Old 06-10-2009, 08:30 AM   #4
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Yeah. Those guys with decades of experience in the automotive business who were running GM were doing just fine. And Chrysler too. Why'd they even mess with such strong, winning companies anyway?
I'd say their performance was stellar compared with the US Gov. Too bad GM just couldn't loot the populace through taxation when they needed the extra cash. I think the current US deficit is almost 2 trillion at this point, so your point is?
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Old 06-10-2009, 09:05 AM   #6
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Welcome to the U.S.S.A. It was bound to happen, just glad I lived in the best times this country ever had.

396 SS El Caminos, Ram Air Goats, Triumph Bonnevilles, Nixon, Vietnam, Ironhead Sportsters, the "Big Three" (GM Ford & Chrysler) Rock & Roll, etc...all seems like a nice dream now.

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
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Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
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That twenty centuries of stony sleep
were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
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Old 06-10-2009, 10:00 AM   #7
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I'd say their performance was stellar compared with the US Gov. Too bad GM just couldn't loot the populace through taxation when they needed the extra cash. I think the current US deficit is almost 2 trillion at this point, so your point is?
I'd say they looted the US population at the dealerships for decades with crappy cars, crappy service, costly contract add-ons, etc. ad naseum to the point that everybody started buying from Japanese companies and they lost in the marketplace. They owned the worlds largest car market, the US, and a big chunk of the world market. Now they're doo doo.

My point: whatever some law-school dropout does at GM isn't going to be any worse than what they did to themselves. They're going bankrupt for chrissakes...once the world's largest manufacturer...bankrupt. Did you know Saturn NEVER made a dime? That ain't anybody's fault but their own.
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new GM Chairman "doesn't know anything about cars":

Whitacre Vows to ‘Learn About Cars’ as Chairman of New GM Board - Bloomberg.com
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I'd say they looted the US population at the dealerships for decades with crappy cars, crappy service, costly contract add-ons, etc. ad naseum to the point that everybody started buying from Japanese companies and they lost in the marketplace. They owned the worlds largest car market, the US, and a big chunk of the world market. Now they're doo doo.

My point: whatever some law-school dropout does at GM isn't going to be any worse than what they did to themselves. They're going bankrupt for chrissakes...once the world's largest manufacturer...bankrupt. Did you know Saturn NEVER made a dime? That ain't anybody's fault but their own.

So you are saying that someone that has no experience running anything can't do any worse? I disagree. They could to LOTS worse, and they are going to do worse with MY MONEY. GM didn't do anyhing different than every other US manufacturer that I can think of including the US TV industry, camera industry, copier industry, calculator industry, watch industry.......need I go on? At least I had a choice if I wanted to buy one of their crappy cars, now I became an unwilling owner in Obamalama's pipe dream.
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Yeah. Those guys with decades of experience in the automotive business who were running GM were doing just fine. And Chrysler too. Why'd they even mess with such strong, winning companies anyway?
Honestly. You think it's a good idea to appoint an apparatchik? This is the sort of crap we see in Venezuela. Defending this sort of stuff only makes you look ridiculous.

Why not an Exec VP from Ford? The guy running American Honda? There are ten thousand better choices than some schmoozing pol.
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