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Old 01-16-2009, 06:48 AM   #1
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History will show that George W Bush was right - Telegraph

For those of you that think that Bush is the most evil person in the world we have words of wisdom from a Brit historian.

Remember this: You don't have to be popular to be right.
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Old 01-16-2009, 07:15 AM   #2
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History will show that George W Bush was right - Telegraph

For those of you that think that Bush is the most evil person in the world we have words of wisdom from a Brit historian.

Remember this: You don't have to be popular to be right.
He will never be right in terms of how the war was managed.

Like I said previously, I have no problem with the invasion, but the administration ran it like sh!t and cost the military and the tax payers greatly.
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Old 01-16-2009, 07:22 AM   #3
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Managing a war is fuzzy business. Just because we 'won' WWII didn't mean there weren't plenty of f*ck-ups along the way. Nobody can manage anything that changes so quickly. You can only try to keep a handle on it, and not let it get away. Did Bush make all the right decisions? Probably not. Being in a business like fighting fires and being second-guessed by people who weren't there, I always hesitate to do the same to someone in the same position.
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Old 01-16-2009, 07:27 AM   #4
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I think the next four to eight years will sort out who is the real boob and who wasn't a stupid as once thought.
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Old 01-16-2009, 07:31 AM   #5
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Managing a war is fuzzy business. Just because we 'won' WWII didn't mean there weren't plenty of f*ck-ups along the way. Nobody can manage anything that changes so quickly. You can only try to keep a handle on it, and not let it get away. Did Bush make all the right decisions? Probably not. Being in a business like fighting fires and being second-guessed by people who weren't there, I always hesitate to do the same to someone in the same position.
There were too many reports (from relatively non-biased articles…well, as non-biased as you can expect) of frustration coming from the military, plus the reports of the Iraq administration prohibiting US military from entering certain areas even though it was well known that the resistance were hiding and coming from the restricted areas. Not to mention letting up off the gas WAY to early after the initial invasion. I have *****ed about this since the beginning. When they did the "surge" my only reaction was "about f*cking time".
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Old 01-16-2009, 07:36 AM   #6
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An interesting perspective. I have to admit I voted for him the first time around, given the choice of Al Gore, Al Franken, Micheal Moore and the rest of the far left and Bush I'd do it again. I think the biggest mistake he made was in the reaction to Katrina and that was more a case of Browns incompetance than Bush's though like Cheney and Rumsf*ck he appointed them.

Realistically he did some good and some bad like every other Pres. I think we need to do away with the political dynasties like the Kennedys, Bushs and Clintons and I think the press needs to show a little support instead of tearing down every president 6 months after he's elected. I'm sure it'll be the same with Obama with the right wing going after him just as aggressively as they did with Clinton and the left did with Bush. It doesn't solve anything and just gives simpletons of either stripe something to b*tch about.
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Old 01-16-2009, 08:10 AM   #7
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I wish I wasn't at work so I could take this dope's points apart one by one. Maybe tonight if I get finished packing for our camp-out tomorrow early. In the meantime, from the site:

"I would suggest anyone who is prepared to take anything written here seriously spend a moment looking at the work done by this author and his history with George Bush as well. Its not to be taken as anything more that self-promotion."
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Old 01-16-2009, 08:17 AM   #8
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An interesting perspective. I have to admit I voted for him the first time around, given the choice of Al Gore, Al Franken, Micheal Moore and the rest of the far left and Bush I'd do it again. I think the biggest mistake he made was in the reaction to Katrina and that was more a case of Browns incompetance than Bush's though like Cheney and Rumsf*ck he appointed them.

Realistically he did some good and some bad like every other Pres. I think we need to do away with the political dynasties like the Kennedys, Bushs and Clintons and I think the press needs to show a little support instead of tearing down every president 6 months after he's elected. I'm sure it'll be the same with Obama with the right wing going after him just as aggressively as they did with Clinton and the left did with Bush. It doesn't solve anything and just gives simpletons of either stripe something to b*tch about.
I've never understood the lambasting he got over Katrina. Were there mistakes? Sure. But it's not like this is something that anyone can train for in advance. Who knows where a hurricane is going to hit in advance? On top of that where in the constitution is disaster handling a Federal responsibility in the first place? I say dump FEMA altogether. At least you would lose the currently empty concentration camps FEMA has already built.

Virtually no grief is given to the N.O. Mayor or the Louisiana Governor who are in fact #1 and #2 in the hierarchy of responsibility. They squandered billions of money that was set aside for the levees and spent it on casinos and other corrupt projects. and then they wouldn't let volunteers drive the escape buses because they didn't have chauffeurs licenses, insurance, etc. Talk about a bureaucratic c0ckup!

We're from the govt and we're here to help! So far the govt has spent over $400,000 per Katrina victim and the only areas that have recovered were those rebuilt by private money. And idiots want the US Govt fools to run your healthcare. They truly are fools.
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"I wish I wasn't at work so I could take this dope's points apart one by one."

I could listen to Olbermann and get the same nonsense that you will spew. That dope's points are very valid. You still think Colin Powell was, and is, against the war, so anything you say would certainly be nothing but partisan ramblings.
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"I wish I wasn't at work so I could take this dope's points apart one by one."

I could listen to Olbermann and get the same nonsense that you will spew. That dope's points are very valid. You still think Colin Powell was, and is, against the war, so anything you say would certainly be nothing but partisan ramblings.
Or you could look at the Congressional testimony from the people who told Bush and Cheney that there were no WMDs, or the reports from the UN inspectors who said there were no WMDs, etc. ad nauseum. But I won't bother you with the facts, since your mind is already made up.
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