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cbusa · 12-14-2001, 01:13 AM

Actually the people who should be a bit irate are the Laverda people. That's their engine layout. Aprilia put the wrong tank badge on the bike!

Duke731 · 12-14-2001, 05:51 AM

Don't count the 2-strokes out. There is technology out there eg; Orbital: FI, valves, dry sump pressure lubed, stratified charge etc. Some years ago the car guys were building concept donkeys and basically running the cams 2x.

Btw Rotax is building some Orbital engines. Not the whole bagful of patents, however.

barefoot · 12-14-2001, 09:06 AM

*twice as many power strokes*

So the displacement difference is an obvious need. There's no way a 500cc 4-stroke can compete with a 500cc 2-stroke.

tonymoe · 12-16-2001, 07:12 AM

No kidding, Aprilia has WSB for the Aprilia brand, maybe it should use Moto GP to save the image of guzzi and laverda.

tonymoe · 12-16-2001, 07:21 AM

Aprilia has to race to establish its brand identity, Triumph avoided needing to race by buying an old establised brand that came with a racing heritage. H-D has the same advantage, it's brand image was also buit by racing, but that was accomplised way before the 50's. Still it is surprizing that Triumph does'nt want to use Moto GP to show off the ability of inline triples.

Lincoln · 12-18-2001, 06:48 AM

that is one line of thinking - getting the maximum amount of power out of a prescribed amount of fuel.

my line of thinking is different(though not necessarily wrong) - getting the maximum amount of power out of a smaller object.

both are efficient in their own way. the way traffic is these days and will be in the future, i'd rather vehicles be smaller than fuel efficient

12-14-2001, 01:13 AM	#51
cbusa Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 9	Re: Aprilia announces GP1 contender Actually the people who should be a bit irate are the Laverda people. That's their engine layout. Aprilia put the wrong tank badge on the bike!

12-14-2001, 05:51 AM	#52
Duke731 Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 2	Re: Big Shake Coming Don't count the 2-strokes out. There is technology out there eg; Orbital: FI, valves, dry sump pressure lubed, stratified charge etc. Some years ago the car guys were building concept donkeys and basically running the cams 2x. Btw Rotax is building some Orbital engines. Not the whole bagful of patents, however.

12-14-2001, 09:06 AM	#53
barefoot Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 1	Don't forget 2 strokes huge advantage: twice as many power strokes So the displacement difference is an obvious need. There's no way a 500cc 4-stroke can compete with a 500cc 2-stroke.

12-16-2001, 07:12 AM	#54
tonymoe Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 7	Re: Laverda No kidding, Aprilia has WSB for the Aprilia brand, maybe it should use Moto GP to save the image of guzzi and laverda.

12-16-2001, 07:21 AM	#55
tonymoe Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 7	Re: Triumph racing Aprilia has to race to establish its brand identity, Triumph avoided needing to race by buying an old establised brand that came with a racing heritage. H-D has the same advantage, it's brand image was also buit by racing, but that was accomplised way before the 50's. Still it is surprizing that Triumph does'nt want to use Moto GP to show off the ability of inline triples.

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12-18-2001, 06:48 AM	#56
Lincoln Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 203	Re: Read my post again, I think I made my point better than that is one line of thinking - getting the maximum amount of power out of a prescribed amount of fuel. my line of thinking is different(though not necessarily wrong) - getting the maximum amount of power out of a smaller object. both are efficient in their own way. the way traffic is these days and will be in the future, i'd rather vehicles be smaller than fuel efficient