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pplassm · 01-10-2006, 06:46 AM

Pirst Fost.

Who's keeping score?

bmwdude · 01-10-2006, 07:04 AM

From what I've read, this sounds like sour grapes on the part of Altadis' ?

They are just mad because of the deal with Japan Tobacco?

Oh well, let the law suits begin!

acecycleins · 01-10-2006, 07:11 AM

You are dead on. Altadis got their panties in a wad because they were out foxed by Yamaha. Rossi wants to race yellow bikes and he got his way. Altadis thought that Yamaha was going to self-finance a one year deal for the factory team but they were wong. Now, JTI is stuck with this stupid arbitration deal but in the end DORNA will side with Yamaha. From the reports I have seen Yamaha never agreed on a non-compete deal that Altadis says existed. So, as far as I can see (so far) Altadis is SOL.

RRRIDER · 01-10-2006, 08:49 AM

Altadis can sponsor me on a bike for a year

; not many people get a chance to ride in the big leagues. There has to be someone out there who will take their money, although I know there is more to it than that. Did MOTOGP limit the amount of factory teams for 2006?

03zx12r · 01-10-2006, 10:55 AM

There ya go.. ***** off Yamaha and get no factory assistance in the future - not cool to speak before you think.

acecycleins · 01-10-2006, 11:01 AM

No. The rumor is Vale had a personal problem with Altadis and in his contract he has the right to refuse sponsors based on his person desires. Camel (JTI) just happened to be in the right place at the right time. Vale was supposed to bring a "big" money personal sponsor in but Yamaha wanted to lock up the finances for the season now. So, since Vale likes Yellow (everything) Camel trotted in with around $12-15 mill and made everyone happy. Except for that pesky Atladis thing. As far as the number of teams- DORNA had a master plan to have 5 Factory 3 bike teams. That blew up when cost when up. Now they want 5 factory 2 bike teams with at least 2 or 3 support teams for the Asain big 4. KR, WMC, and Ducati maybe even Kawasaki don't have '06 sponsors locked-up but King Kenny's got something working for the Honda deal he's working on. Other than that, all is "normal" in MotoGP.

mscuddy · 01-10-2006, 12:10 PM

Smoke 'em if you got 'em.

tomk2 · 01-10-2006, 03:14 PM

Altadis and Yamaha had a contract for the 2006 season.. the legal question is whether or not that contract gave Yamaha a unilateral right to terminate the contract. Yamaha feels that they had that right, Altadis feels they didn't.

If the answer is "not" then Yamaha's gonna have to pay Altadis some $$$... just like Yamaha made Alex Barros pay when he bailed on his contract last year.

yellowduc_1 · 01-11-2006, 04:18 AM

"Can't we all just get along?"

01-10-2006, 06:46 AM	#1
pplassm Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 3,875	Re: As the MotoGP Paddock Turns Pirst Fost. Who's keeping score? __________________ Mongo just pawn in game of life.

01-10-2006, 07:04 AM	#2
bmwdude Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: New Milton, WV, USA Posts: 424	Re: As the MotoGP Paddock Turns From what I've read, this sounds like sour grapes on the part of Altadis' ? They are just mad because of the deal with Japan Tobacco? Oh well, let the law suits begin!

01-10-2006, 07:11 AM	#3
acecycleins Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: North Georgia Posts: 4,125	Re: As the MotoGP Paddock Turns You are dead on. Altadis got their panties in a wad because they were out foxed by Yamaha. Rossi wants to race yellow bikes and he got his way. Altadis thought that Yamaha was going to self-finance a one year deal for the factory team but they were wong. Now, JTI is stuck with this stupid arbitration deal but in the end DORNA will side with Yamaha. From the reports I have seen Yamaha never agreed on a non-compete deal that Altadis says existed. So, as far as I can see (so far) Altadis is SOL. __________________ "Slack" - a state of being in which everything flows smoothly.....a frame of mind so at ease that the universe naturally cooperates.

01-10-2006, 08:49 AM	#4
RRRIDER Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 24	Re: As the MotoGP Paddock Turns Altadis can sponsor me on a bike for a year ; not many people get a chance to ride in the big leagues. There has to be someone out there who will take their money, although I know there is more to it than that. Did MOTOGP limit the amount of factory teams for 2006?

01-10-2006, 10:55 AM	#5
03zx12r Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 202	Re: As the MotoGP Paddock Turns There ya go.. ***** off Yamaha and get no factory assistance in the future - not cool to speak before you think.

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01-10-2006, 11:01 AM	#6
acecycleins Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: North Georgia Posts: 4,125	Re: As the MotoGP Paddock Turns No. The rumor is Vale had a personal problem with Altadis and in his contract he has the right to refuse sponsors based on his person desires. Camel (JTI) just happened to be in the right place at the right time. Vale was supposed to bring a "big" money personal sponsor in but Yamaha wanted to lock up the finances for the season now. So, since Vale likes Yellow (everything) Camel trotted in with around $12-15 mill and made everyone happy. Except for that pesky Atladis thing. As far as the number of teams- DORNA had a master plan to have 5 Factory 3 bike teams. That blew up when cost when up. Now they want 5 factory 2 bike teams with at least 2 or 3 support teams for the Asain big 4. KR, WMC, and Ducati maybe even Kawasaki don't have '06 sponsors locked-up but King Kenny's got something working for the Honda deal he's working on. Other than that, all is "normal" in MotoGP. __________________ "Slack" - a state of being in which everything flows smoothly.....a frame of mind so at ease that the universe naturally cooperates.

01-10-2006, 12:10 PM	#7
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01-10-2006, 03:14 PM	#8
tomk2 Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 514	Re: As the MotoGP Paddock Turns Altadis and Yamaha had a contract for the 2006 season.. the legal question is whether or not that contract gave Yamaha a unilateral right to terminate the contract. Yamaha feels that they had that right, Altadis feels they didn't. If the answer is "not" then Yamaha's gonna have to pay Altadis some $$$... just like Yamaha made Alex Barros pay when he bailed on his contract last year.

01-11-2006, 04:18 AM	#9
yellowduc_1 Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 138	Re: As the MotoGP Paddock Turns "Can't we all just get along?"