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red-silver 09-26-2005 11:05 AM

Re: Rossi's best. period
yossef ~ Based on what I've seen in my lifetime, I woud agree that championship alone does not tell the whole story with gp racers. There are a lot of very, very good racers. But there are only a handful who truly did exhibit greatness. We've been through this poll before, but my (very) short list is: (Not neccessarily in this order) - Jarno Saarinen, Mike Hailwood, Ken Roberts (Sr.), Valentino Rossi, Mic Doohan, and Cal Rayborn.

I know that there are many talented riders not on this list, but the riders I have mentioned showed speed, control, courage, and intelligence in the most extrordinary racing situations, often with very tough adversarys i.e. ~ Hailwood/Agostini, Roberts/Sheene, etc.

They are simply without peer in their own racing eras.

ewok1 09-26-2005 11:07 AM

Re: Rossi's best. period
i noticed what you have. i believe that in at least some of the races rossi went only fast enough to win. watch his lines. he rides tighter and cleaner lines than anyone on the current grid. he can do things others can't

Dixit 09-26-2005 12:28 PM

Re: Rossi's genius.
Rossi is a great pilot, but definetely not close to be the greatest of all times. That title indeed, goes to Agostini without question. Concerning Formula 1 racing, only two have done the transition sucessfully: Mike Hailwood and John Surtees. By the way, Surtees is the only one who became world champion on 2 and on 4 wheels. I believe that he also won more world champion titles than Rossi.

giuliom 09-26-2005 03:26 PM

Re: Rossi is the greatest of our generation
I was a huge Agostini fan, and still am, in fact one of the thrills of Laguna Seca was standing about 4 feet from him in the Yamaha tent, and I followed him when he raced (yes, I am THAT old...), but in his days he raced on 350 and 500 every year, and his MV was clearly a superior bike. He raced beautifully, but sometimes even I, who wanted him to crush anyone else, wanted him to have more of a fight on his hands. Usually, unless he fell or his MV blew up, he won. He was great, but I don't know that overall he was better than Rossi. They are both amazing, IMHO.

pplassm 09-26-2005 03:39 PM

And he should take Matt Mladin with him!

sportbikebandit 09-26-2005 07:11 PM

Re: Yeah!
Good point. AMA SuperBike was a yawner this year. But maybe Tommy and Rog can do what Nicky did. Hope Yamaha joins the party with EBoz

bod 09-27-2005 02:44 AM

Re: Rossi's genius.
hey isn't that a song you tina turner wannabe

SRMark 09-27-2005 05:00 AM

Re: Rossi's genius.
Yup, but Rossi's legs aren't as nice as Tina's.

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