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Old 02-20-2003, 01:50 PM   #11
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Default January Sepang times

From roadracingworld.com 01/22/03:



Best Lap Times Compiled From Team Sources Following Recent Tests:



1. Valentino Rossi, Honda RC211V, 2:02.65

2. Max Biaggi, Honda RC211V, 2:02.8

3. Tohru Ukawa, Honda RC211V, 2:03.4

4. Daijiro Kato, Honda RC211V, 2:03.7

5. Loris Capirossi, Ducati Desmosedici, 2:03.9

6. Troy Bayliss, Ducati Desmosedici, 2:04.0

7. Sete Gibernau, Honda RC211V, 2:04.3

8. Kenny Roberts, Suzuki GSV-R, 2:05.1

9. John Hopkins, Suzuki GSV-R, 2:05.46

10. Nicky Hayden, Honda RC211V, 2:05.47

11. Shinichi Itoh, Honda RC211V, 2:05.6

12. Andrew Pitt, Kawasaki ZX-RR, 2:06.31

13. Garry McCoy, Kawasaki ZX-RR, 2:06.40

14. Makoto Tamada, Honda RC211V, 2:06.5

15. Alex Hofmann, Kawasaki ZX-RR, 2:06.62

16. Akira Yanagawa, Kawasaki ZX-RR, 2:06.73



2002 MotoGP Pole Position: Barros, Honda RC211V, 2:04.487



2002 MotoGP Circuit Best Lap: Barros, Honda RC211V, 2:04.376



2002 Race Fastest Lap: Max Biaggi, Yamaha YZR-M1, 2:04.925





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Old 02-20-2003, 02:00 PM   #12
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Default Re: Pull finger Nicky

You guys in the US your boy is going to have to pull finger if he is going to compete. A couple of seconds off the pace won't cut it.

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Old 02-20-2003, 04:09 PM   #13
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Default Re: Pull finger Nicky

I agree with your comment. My only (maybe dumb) question is, what do you mean by "pull finger"? I've never seen the phrase used this way.
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Old 02-20-2003, 05:32 PM   #14
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I agree that Honda shoulda, coulda, woulda gone with Colin, but that is history. Now that Haydon got the opportunity, I don't think anyone expects him to contend the first year, considering all the first time situations he's facing:

1. international racing

2. culture and language acclimation

3. unfamiliar tracks

4. new bike and tires (Dunlop before)

5. rookie psychology

6. etc, etc.



By the time Rossi, Biaggi, et al. made the move to 500's, they were well acclimated to the travel, competition, and tracks. I think Honda is grooming him for the future as he is only 21 or so, just as RedBull Yamaha took on John Hopkins last year who happened to do quite well for himself even though he never even competed in AMA Superbike prior.
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Old 02-20-2003, 06:11 PM   #15
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Default Re: Pull finger Nicky

Your forgot about Colin. Thats where im puttin my money.
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Old 02-20-2003, 06:34 PM   #16
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The bikes could also be underweight too. Remember, they have to be around 145 kg or something for races, but they would likely build the bikes lighter so they can play with ballast positioning.

There is also the "cool air" effect where you get more air in for the same effort. And that means more power.
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Old 02-20-2003, 10:40 PM   #17
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Default Re: Pull finger Nicky

Its a saying we use down here and I guess it originates from something like pull your finger out of your butt and get moving or pull it out from wherever it is and concentrate on the job at hand.



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Old 02-21-2003, 04:09 AM   #18
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I'm sure Honda didn't place him in the Repsol team to compete with Rossi! This year is learning curve time for Nicky, and what a teacher he has!
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Old 02-21-2003, 04:19 AM   #19
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Honda says "this". Nicky is showing real maturity. Kato is flying.
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Old 02-21-2003, 06:51 AM   #20
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I agree. In fact, a lot of people speculate that they did not pick Colin specifically because he WOULD have expected to challenge Rossi, and they already have plenty who can do that (Biaggi, Kato, Ukawa). I think they are doing the samt thing Yamaha did with Melandri -- they are recruiting the riders they hope to be contending for the 2005+ seasons.



Nicky HAS shown real maturity (as well as an exceptional work ethic) in testing, by not losing patience with his relatively slow times and simply riding over his head. Riding using his brain more than his testicles.



I will be really interested to see how he measures up with Hopper this year. Interestingly, their recent Sepang times are very similar. Hopper has had one year of GP experience, but probably less time on the 4-stroke bikes than Nicky. Also, Hopper was on the 2002 Suzuki, which clearly was not in the same league as the RCV (or M1). Hopper is even younger than Nicky.



Hopefully, we will get some TV coverage of the mid pack battles this year. Last year was pretty good that way, but with Rossi dominating at the front, the real battles were often in mid-pack. The front looks more competitive this year so we may not see as much of these riders as before.



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