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rsheidler · 01-29-2003, 05:11 AM

Looks like Yamaha could be pretty competitive this year. They are well under the best times from last year, as well under the recent times of all the other teams. Of course, especially this time of year, weather, and particularly track temperatures, can play a big role in lap times so it is hard to jump to firm conclusions when comparing times from different days. I guess that is why they bother to actually run a race series instead of just awarding the championship on off-season test times

mconlon · 01-29-2003, 05:29 AM

Hearing good things from Yamaha and Ducati... I hope this season is a little bit more exciting than last year's 1-manufacturer, 1-model GP spec racing...

ducatirdr · 01-29-2003, 06:01 AM

This is going to be the hardest year to predict who will win the championship. Ducati has a bike that is setting the news wire on fire. Yamaha is getting the relatively new, end of 2002 season, chassis ready with more power for next year and a bunch more Honda V5's for everyone. Will Aprilia reach the podium with it's funky three cylinder and F1 pneumatic valve systems?

I think the Italian firms have had great success in being like David against the Goliath budgets of the big 4. Aprilia in the 250gp and Ducati in the WSB.

MotoGP 2003 Bring it on!

I must say I would love to see Edwards win on the Aprilia. That would be justice.

longride · 01-29-2003, 06:21 AM

My prediction? Honda will smoke em all again. Why? They have 7 motorcycles contending and are probably spending 5 times the cash. That's 7 chances to get the right setup, and instant changes if they aren't getting it. Plus, I believe Honda is not showing their hand right now. Ducati and Yamaha are running balls out to get to where Honda WAS. I won't be suprised to see Honda's filling the podium again this year. I would like to see Ducati and Aprillia do well, but GP is a different ballgame.

red-silver · 01-29-2003, 06:31 AM

That (Honda's quantity) reminds me of Kenny Roberts (Sr.) comment one year when he was competing for the AMA #1 plate. Ken had a much modified 650 (750) Yamaha vertical twin, that was still down on power to the Harleys.

Harley race manager **** O'brien had a large field of potentialy very fast dirt trackers....

Ken's comment to ****...."Yep, it looks like you got a winner there...."

Holy_Kaw · 01-29-2003, 06:35 AM

He steps up to the plate, he points to the outfield, he's calling his shot! Max on the Honda! Hope it's a great season, I'll be watching and pulling for Colin, Troy and others but if I had to bet right now...

Holy_Kaw · 01-29-2003, 06:39 AM

Agree

rsheidler · 01-30-2003, 05:37 AM

If I was to bet serious money, I would have to put it on Honda, and if I were to put it on a specific rider, Rossi. That certainly is the safest bet. However, I think that the chance for one of the others to upset that this year is much stronger than has been the case recently.

Honda clearly do have the deepest roster of top-level riding talent, with at least 4 riders who are capable of winning GPs, or even championships (Rossi, Biaggi, Ukawa and Katoh).

I don't think that the 2003 version of the Honda GP bike will be significantly different -- from what I hear, it will be minor evolutionaly tweaks, with some additional effort focused on weak areas (ie slipper clutch, etc). If there were to be a major redesign (eg the rumored V6, or more recently rumored V3), much of what they have learned in testing ofer the past several months would not be of much benefit. If they DO get beaten,or even seriously challenged this year, all bets are off for 2004, though.

My ranking of probabilities for 2003 success by manufacturer are:

1) Honda

2) Yamaha

3) Ducati

4) Aprilia

5) Suzuki

6) Kawasaki

7) Proton

WCM (R1-based prototype)

Proton is that far down only because their new engine has only first run under its own power about a week ago. The team's past success and experience would otherwise move them ahead of Kawasaki and maybe even Suzuki.

My gut tells me that Barros and the M1 just might take it this year, or at least mount a serious championship fight, and my heart says Ducati or Aprilia.

01-29-2003, 05:29 AM	#2
mconlon Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 145	Re: Yamaha Completes Test Hearing good things from Yamaha and Ducati... I hope this season is a little bit more exciting than last year's 1-manufacturer, 1-model GP spec racing...

01-29-2003, 06:01 AM	#3
ducatirdr Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 128	Re: Yamaha Completes Test This is going to be the hardest year to predict who will win the championship. Ducati has a bike that is setting the news wire on fire. Yamaha is getting the relatively new, end of 2002 season, chassis ready with more power for next year and a bunch more Honda V5's for everyone. Will Aprilia reach the podium with it's funky three cylinder and F1 pneumatic valve systems? I think the Italian firms have had great success in being like David against the Goliath budgets of the big 4. Aprilia in the 250gp and Ducati in the WSB. MotoGP 2003 Bring it on! I must say I would love to see Edwards win on the Aprilia. That would be justice.

01-29-2003, 06:21 AM	#4
longride Super Duper Mod Man Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Anywhere they let me Posts: 10,484	Re: Yamaha Completes Test My prediction? Honda will smoke em all again. Why? They have 7 motorcycles contending and are probably spending 5 times the cash. That's 7 chances to get the right setup, and instant changes if they aren't getting it. Plus, I believe Honda is not showing their hand right now. Ducati and Yamaha are running balls out to get to where Honda WAS. I won't be suprised to see Honda's filling the podium again this year. I would like to see Ducati and Aprillia do well, but GP is a different ballgame. __________________ I'm a knucklehead

01-29-2003, 06:31 AM	#5
red-silver Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 74	Re: Yamaha Completes Test That (Honda's quantity) reminds me of Kenny Roberts (Sr.) comment one year when he was competing for the AMA #1 plate. Ken had a much modified 650 (750) Yamaha vertical twin, that was still down on power to the Harleys. Harley race manager ** O'brien had a large field of potentialy very fast dirt trackers.... Ken's comment to **...."Yep, it looks like you got a winner there...."

01-29-2003, 06:35 AM	#6
Holy_Kaw Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,230	Re: Yamaha Completes Test He steps up to the plate, he points to the outfield, he's calling his shot! Max on the Honda! Hope it's a great season, I'll be watching and pulling for Colin, Troy and others but if I had to bet right now...

01-29-2003, 05:11 AM	#1
rsheidler Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,459	Re: Yamaha Completes Test Looks like Yamaha could be pretty competitive this year. They are well under the best times from last year, as well under the recent times of all the other teams. Of course, especially this time of year, weather, and particularly track temperatures, can play a big role in lap times so it is hard to jump to firm conclusions when comparing times from different days. I guess that is why they bother to actually run a race series instead of just awarding the championship on off-season test times

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01-29-2003, 06:39 AM	#7
Holy_Kaw Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,230	Re: Yamaha Completes Test Agree

01-30-2003, 05:37 AM	#8
rsheidler Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,459	Re: Yamaha Completes Test If I was to bet serious money, I would have to put it on Honda, and if I were to put it on a specific rider, Rossi. That certainly is the safest bet. However, I think that the chance for one of the others to upset that this year is much stronger than has been the case recently. Honda clearly do have the deepest roster of top-level riding talent, with at least 4 riders who are capable of winning GPs, or even championships (Rossi, Biaggi, Ukawa and Katoh). I don't think that the 2003 version of the Honda GP bike will be significantly different -- from what I hear, it will be minor evolutionaly tweaks, with some additional effort focused on weak areas (ie slipper clutch, etc). If there were to be a major redesign (eg the rumored V6, or more recently rumored V3), much of what they have learned in testing ofer the past several months would not be of much benefit. If they DO get beaten,or even seriously challenged this year, all bets are off for 2004, though. My ranking of probabilities for 2003 success by manufacturer are: 1) Honda 2) Yamaha 3) Ducati 4) Aprilia 5) Suzuki 6) Kawasaki 7) Proton WCM (R1-based prototype) Proton is that far down only because their new engine has only first run under its own power about a week ago. The team's past success and experience would otherwise move them ahead of Kawasaki and maybe even Suzuki. My gut tells me that Barros and the M1 just might take it this year, or at least mount a serious championship fight, and my heart says Ducati or Aprilia.