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ZR-7 · 09-23-2002, 01:28 PM

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rsheidler · 09-23-2002, 02:56 PM

Actually, it was a pretty exciting wet race -- after watching Sete in Portugal and now Checa in Brazil, I can almost say I would rather watch a wet GP than a dry one. Damn, it that was not masterful riding, I have never seen it! I understand that Checa was riding within 7% of the lap record -- in the effin rain!!

As in Portugal, it was heartbreaking to see the master of the day throw it away while in the lead, handing the win to Rossi -- who was damn impressinve himself, but that is no surprise.

I have high hopes for Checa next year -- hope he can give Rossi a real run for it.

v4bryan · 09-23-2002, 05:46 PM

Damned impressive riding on everybody's part-but Rossi just stunned me with the way he arsed the bike into turn 1...unbelievable. I know Checa was turning some blazing fast times, but I would have been surprised if he finished in first place-with Rossi behind him one or the other would have gone down dicing for the lead, I bet...

jmeyn · 09-24-2002, 04:15 AM

Rossi seems to know exactly how fast he can go and goes just slightly slower. If you pass him, you're on the edge and just slightly out of your comfort zone. And he's sitting right on your tail, showing you a wheel. No wonder Checa fell.

rsheidler · 09-24-2002, 05:28 AM

Rossi is absolutely the best rider I have ever seen, beyond all doubt. Not only does he have the pure physical talent, but he also has the maturity and judgement, race strategy, the apparant ability to communicate with his mechanics and other team members to develop the bike and nail the setup. I would bet that if he were to join, say, the Aprilia team, they would be winning GPs my midseason next year!

However, his brilliance has somewhat eclipsed the fact that there have been some damned great performances from some of the more mortal riders, and some of them have made real progress to the point where it is no longer a foregone conclusion that Rossi will win (although that is still where you want to bet any serious money).

Of course rain changes a lot of things -- especially regarding which bikes have the advantage -- clearly Suzuki should pray for rain every race, at least until they figure out what is missing from their performance equation -- Sete in Portugal and Kenny in Rio have been about the only bright spots for the season.

In the past, I have kinda tuned out most wet races -- they tend to be crashfests, and everyone just sorta tiptoes around trying to keep the rubber side down, but I gotta say that Estoril and Rio were two of the most exciting GPs I have seen, in large part to the performances of what I generally consider to be 2nd string riders (and I mean no disrespect, just that they are on a different plain from riders like Rossi, Doohen, Rainey -- maybe Biaggi -- etc).

jmeyn · 09-24-2002, 06:57 AM

I sure agree with you a lot!

You have to include Biaggi; he's only a few places down from Rossi in the all time GP winners list and Rossi moved ahead of Rainey into 5th place after Rio!

rsheidler · 09-24-2002, 08:56 AM

Yeah! Biaggi had slipped in my estimation in the early part of the season -- I think it may have taken him a bit longer to adapt to the 4-strokes than Checa (who rides an R-1 for practice), and perhaps is not as good as some at making the best of a bad situation (ie non-competitive Yamaha in early season). In any case, he has sure come on strong lately. I bet Yamaha are kicking themselves in the ass for letting him go -- especially since they were not able to hold on to Nicky!

KPaulCook · 09-24-2002, 10:05 PM

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maynard · 09-26-2002, 05:16 AM

When Yamaha missed out on Nicky they should have picked up on the guy who was beating him so often in the latter part of the season-------EBOSS------don"t these people pay attention to AMA racing?

09-23-2002, 01:28 PM	#1
ZR-7 Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 119	Re: Results from Rio Grand Prix, Rio, Brazil Snooozzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Philip __________________ Philip \'00 Kawasaki ZR-7 \'02 Suzuki Bandit 1200S

09-23-2002, 02:56 PM	#2
rsheidler Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,459	Checa Actually, it was a pretty exciting wet race -- after watching Sete in Portugal and now Checa in Brazil, I can almost say I would rather watch a wet GP than a dry one. Damn, it that was not masterful riding, I have never seen it! I understand that Checa was riding within 7% of the lap record -- in the effin rain!! As in Portugal, it was heartbreaking to see the master of the day throw it away while in the lead, handing the win to Rossi -- who was damn impressinve himself, but that is no surprise. I have high hopes for Checa next year -- hope he can give Rossi a real run for it.

09-23-2002, 05:46 PM	#3
v4bryan Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 144	Re: Checa Damned impressive riding on everybody's part-but Rossi just stunned me with the way he arsed the bike into turn 1...unbelievable. I know Checa was turning some blazing fast times, but I would have been surprised if he finished in first place-with Rossi behind him one or the other would have gone down dicing for the lead, I bet...

09-24-2002, 04:15 AM	#4
jmeyn Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 780	Re: Checa Rossi seems to know exactly how fast he can go and goes just slightly slower. If you pass him, you're on the edge and just slightly out of your comfort zone. And he's sitting right on your tail, showing you a wheel. No wonder Checa fell.

09-24-2002, 05:28 AM	#5
rsheidler Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,459	Re: Checa Rossi is absolutely the best rider I have ever seen, beyond all doubt. Not only does he have the pure physical talent, but he also has the maturity and judgement, race strategy, the apparant ability to communicate with his mechanics and other team members to develop the bike and nail the setup. I would bet that if he were to join, say, the Aprilia team, they would be winning GPs my midseason next year! However, his brilliance has somewhat eclipsed the fact that there have been some damned great performances from some of the more mortal riders, and some of them have made real progress to the point where it is no longer a foregone conclusion that Rossi will win (although that is still where you want to bet any serious money). Of course rain changes a lot of things -- especially regarding which bikes have the advantage -- clearly Suzuki should pray for rain every race, at least until they figure out what is missing from their performance equation -- Sete in Portugal and Kenny in Rio have been about the only bright spots for the season. In the past, I have kinda tuned out most wet races -- they tend to be crashfests, and everyone just sorta tiptoes around trying to keep the rubber side down, but I gotta say that Estoril and Rio were two of the most exciting GPs I have seen, in large part to the performances of what I generally consider to be 2nd string riders (and I mean no disrespect, just that they are on a different plain from riders like Rossi, Doohen, Rainey -- maybe Biaggi -- etc).

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09-24-2002, 06:57 AM	#6
jmeyn Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 780	Re: Checa I sure agree with you a lot! You have to include Biaggi; he's only a few places down from Rossi in the all time GP winners list and Rossi moved ahead of Rainey into 5th place after Rio!

09-24-2002, 08:56 AM	#7
rsheidler Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,459	Re: Checa Yeah! Biaggi had slipped in my estimation in the early part of the season -- I think it may have taken him a bit longer to adapt to the 4-strokes than Checa (who rides an R-1 for practice), and perhaps is not as good as some at making the best of a bad situation (ie non-competitive Yamaha in early season). In any case, he has sure come on strong lately. I bet Yamaha are kicking themselves in the ass for letting him go -- especially since they were not able to hold on to Nicky!

09-24-2002, 10:05 PM	#8
KPaulCook Banned Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 2,756	Honda Finally Achieves Founder’s Dream See speedtv.com for details.

09-26-2002, 05:16 AM	#9
maynard Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 19	Re: Checa When Yamaha missed out on Nicky they should have picked up on the guy who was beating him so often in the latter part of the season-------EBOSS------don"t these people pay attention to AMA racing?