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shash_what · 04-01-2002, 06:42 AM

FIRST POST!

go here for pics first-- http://www.ducati.com/docs_eng/photo...c/dr_down.html

jmeyn · 04-01-2002, 07:14 AM

What a concept: a press release with content.

Honda's also working hard in the wind-tunnel; it looks like aeros may be key in saving tires as well as fuel this year.

No more one size fits all, I guess.

NickdaBrick · 04-01-2002, 07:17 AM

They're humongous. Have those clever Ducati engineers figured out how to use expansion chambers on a 4-stroke?

TheFox · 04-01-2002, 07:22 AM

I think it's to save weight yet still comply with the noise restrictions. The old volume vs surface area problem, you know? This way they have just one pipe that is a little lighter than the two small ones put together. In addition, it's probably more aerodynamic - this wide but very low profile can hangs down less from the tail, resulting in less resistance as air comes off the bike.

I think it looks really trick too. Anyone have any idea why the openings in the can are different shapes and sizes?

--Foxy

granny · 04-01-2002, 07:57 AM

Is April 1 universally regarded as a day for pranks? I Hope not as this is an interesting bike and a break in Ducati tradition. I'd like to see a GP inspired street version but shudder to think of the purchase price and maintenance costs. Currently, Duc's require service every 10KM, the cost of a 30KM service for a 916 is $750 in this locale. The main component of the cost of any scheduled service is the valve lash check/adjust (BTW, $750 is for only 8 valves not 16 - yuk).

evilgenius · 04-01-2002, 08:14 AM

Noise reduction limits have been increased so the design won't include much noise reduction factor.

Personally, I think Ducati wants to retain the 'look' that users are familiar with. But , I'm no engineer and I don't understand the dymanics of exhaust flow/shape/resonance as well as I would like...

Vlad · 04-01-2002, 08:52 AM

We'll all have to wait until this new series of GP bikes competes on the tracks of the world to see who has the fastest, but Ducati has already won one contest - they have created the most beautiful bike. While their competitors looks like clones from the same mold, the Ducati offers dramatically different styling. Now if they could only make a street bike with the new two valve engine that looks like this one they would have me saving up for one, and I think I would have to get in line.

Vlad

fernandopan · 04-01-2002, 10:20 AM

This bike is going to be the coolest on the race track!!

The openings in the can are not different. The angle of the photo makes them look different.

If you look close, you will see that the openings are not perpendicular to the direction of the bike, but in a different angle.

El_Flaco · 04-01-2002, 10:35 AM

I hope that exhaust can is an April Fools' prank... It's pretty ugly and doesn't seem to fit that tail section very well at all. For Italian styling, it seems to be lacking so far- many of the others are far more attractive in my eye.

obandoj · 04-01-2002, 12:04 PM

If it goes as good as it looks, everybody else will be in trouble, time will tell.

04-01-2002, 06:42 AM	#1
shash_what Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 20	Re: Ducati's GP bike breaks cover FIRST POST! go here for pics first-- http://www.ducati.com/docs_eng/photo...c/dr_down.html

04-01-2002, 07:14 AM	#2
jmeyn Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 780	Re: Ducati's GP bike breaks cover What a concept: a press release with content. Honda's also working hard in the wind-tunnel; it looks like aeros may be key in saving tires as well as fuel this year. No more one size fits all, I guess.

04-01-2002, 07:17 AM	#3
NickdaBrick Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 214	Cool! But what's with the exhaust pipes? They're humongous. Have those clever Ducati engineers figured out how to use expansion chambers on a 4-stroke?

04-01-2002, 07:22 AM	#4
TheFox Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 730	Re: Cool! But what's with the exhaust pipes? I think it's to save weight yet still comply with the noise restrictions. The old volume vs surface area problem, you know? This way they have just one pipe that is a little lighter than the two small ones put together. In addition, it's probably more aerodynamic - this wide but very low profile can hangs down less from the tail, resulting in less resistance as air comes off the bike. I think it looks really trick too. Anyone have any idea why the openings in the can are different shapes and sizes? --Foxy __________________ --The Fox The best bike to take a trip on is the one you have.

04-01-2002, 07:57 AM	#5
granny Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 149	Interesting day on which to announce the GP bike Is April 1 universally regarded as a day for pranks? I Hope not as this is an interesting bike and a break in Ducati tradition. I'd like to see a GP inspired street version but shudder to think of the purchase price and maintenance costs. Currently, Duc's require service every 10KM, the cost of a 30KM service for a 916 is $750 in this locale. The main component of the cost of any scheduled service is the valve lash check/adjust (BTW, $750 is for only 8 valves not 16 - yuk).

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04-01-2002, 08:14 AM	#6
evilgenius Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 82	Re: Cool! But what's with the exhaust pipes? Noise reduction limits have been increased so the design won't include much noise reduction factor. Personally, I think Ducati wants to retain the 'look' that users are familiar with. But , I'm no engineer and I don't understand the dymanics of exhaust flow/shape/resonance as well as I would like...

04-01-2002, 08:52 AM	#7
Vlad Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 296	Re: Ducati's GP bike breaks cover We'll all have to wait until this new series of GP bikes competes on the tracks of the world to see who has the fastest, but Ducati has already won one contest - they have created the most beautiful bike. While their competitors looks like clones from the same mold, the Ducati offers dramatically different styling. Now if they could only make a street bike with the new two valve engine that looks like this one they would have me saving up for one, and I think I would have to get in line. Vlad

04-01-2002, 10:20 AM	#8
fernandopan Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 23	Re: Cool! But what's with the exhaust pipes? This bike is going to be the coolest on the race track!! The openings in the can are not different. The angle of the photo makes them look different. If you look close, you will see that the openings are not perpendicular to the direction of the bike, but in a different angle.

04-01-2002, 10:35 AM	#9
El_Flaco Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 158	Re: Ducati's GP bike breaks cover I hope that exhaust can is an April Fools' prank... It's pretty ugly and doesn't seem to fit that tail section very well at all. For Italian styling, it seems to be lacking so far- many of the others are far more attractive in my eye. __________________ \"I will not instigate revolution.\" -Bart Simpson

04-01-2002, 12:04 PM	#10
obandoj Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Arizona Posts: 912	Jose Obando If it goes as good as it looks, everybody else will be in trouble, time will tell.