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sportbikebandit · 07-27-2005, 01:27 PM

I agree. That's why I wear good protective gear but that's no guarantee. Just like an airline pilot told me once he has known good pilots that died cause they were in impossible situations....

edward44 · 07-27-2005, 01:50 PM

Right. Skill: damn right. Art: in the eye of the beholder. Magic? Ain't no such thing. Dumb luck maybe.

Gabe · 07-27-2005, 02:13 PM

I just rode with a motorcycle messenger this morning. He rides at ridiculously fast speeds everywhere, all the time. I mean like 80 on city streets. He weaves in and out of traffic and lane splits 40 mph faster than traffic with inches-and I really mean a few inches to spare. Once he wedged his bike in between two cars lane splitting.

So of course, he's just a dumb squid who's going to get killed, right? Did I mention he's been doing this for 5-8 hours a day for 17 years?

If you really feel your life is in somebody else's hands, you need to quit riding a motorcycle. I know where you can buy a nice, safe, quiet SUV.

I wouldn't trust a car driver any further than I could throw them. Who controls whetehr I crash or not? Me and me alone.

I've had 30+ serious crashes. I only had one involving another vehicle, and I was going too fast.

They'll never get me!

Fenton · 07-27-2005, 02:54 PM

Same way the 20 year old feels on his new ZX-10R. Untouchable.

You just have the experience to back it up. Most don't.

Fenton · 07-27-2005, 03:12 PM

I remember reading that. I hope one day I can be an old smooth guy on a crusty BMW and visit all the places I ride today.

gameholic2 · 07-27-2005, 03:19 PM

This article is so spot on it's frightening.

NO1ZX6R · 07-27-2005, 03:55 PM

Great piece of writing. I've tried to approach my riding with a similar attitude and feel that it has paid off. A friend just got a bike 2 weeks ago after not riding for about 5 years. The first thing he said to me after following me down a twisty bit the other day was "damn, your smooth!"

This piece also reminds me of another great article called "The Pace". Articles like this make me renew my subscription to MO. Thanks

pdad13 · 07-27-2005, 05:08 PM

Funny, I was thinking about "The Pace" and Nick Ienatch, too. He reprises the theme in his book "Sport Riding Techniques." Everyone should read it when they get a chance.

Abe_Froman · 07-27-2005, 06:24 PM

untouchable? No. What other people do is out of my control. I could get rear ended, I could have someone pull out in front of me (had this happen a couple times, practiced crash avoidance) and get taken out by something beyond my control. Of course I've done little street riding lately but anyway.

All I'm saying is that avoiding a crash so far is because I ride within my personal limits and mitigate the risk. However it might appear to some to be reckless because I don't neccessarily obey the law.

I was, however, that 21-year old on the GSXR600 at one time. I did some stupid things, had some close calls but never destroyed my bike.

Grum · 07-27-2005, 07:15 PM

Commiserations and lamentations on your failed claim to First Postdom. No membership to MOFPC for you.

07-27-2005, 01:27 PM	#11
sportbikebandit Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,072	Re: The Art and Magic of Controlling a Motorcycle I agree. That's why I wear good protective gear but that's no guarantee. Just like an airline pilot told me once he has known good pilots that died cause they were in impossible situations....

07-27-2005, 01:50 PM	#12
edward44 Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 281	Re: The Art and Magic of Controlling a Motorcycle Right. Skill: damn right. Art: in the eye of the beholder. Magic? Ain't no such thing. Dumb luck maybe.

07-27-2005, 02:13 PM	#13
Gabe Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 720	To you sir, I say: HA! I just rode with a motorcycle messenger this morning. He rides at ridiculously fast speeds everywhere, all the time. I mean like 80 on city streets. He weaves in and out of traffic and lane splits 40 mph faster than traffic with inches-and I really mean a few inches to spare. Once he wedged his bike in between two cars lane splitting. So of course, he's just a dumb squid who's going to get killed, right? Did I mention he's been doing this for 5-8 hours a day for 17 years? If you really feel your life is in somebody else's hands, you need to quit riding a motorcycle. I know where you can buy a nice, safe, quiet SUV. I wouldn't trust a car driver any further than I could throw them. Who controls whetehr I crash or not? Me and me alone. I've had 30+ serious crashes. I only had one involving another vehicle, and I was going too fast. They'll never get me! __________________ Gabe Ets-Hokin Just a guy in the ether...

07-27-2005, 02:54 PM	#14
Fenton Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Arvada, CO Posts: 1,900	Re: The Art and Magic of Controlling a Motorcycle Same way the 20 year old feels on his new ZX-10R. Untouchable. You just have the experience to back it up. Most don't.

07-27-2005, 03:12 PM	#15
Fenton Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Arvada, CO Posts: 1,900	Re: The Art and Magic of Controlling a Motorcycle I remember reading that. I hope one day I can be an old smooth guy on a crusty BMW and visit all the places I ride today.

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07-27-2005, 03:19 PM	#16
gameholic2 Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3	Re: The Art and Magic of Controlling a Motorcycle This article is so spot on it's frightening.

07-27-2005, 03:55 PM	#17
NO1ZX6R Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 6	Re: The Art and Magic of Controlling a Motorcycle Great piece of writing. I've tried to approach my riding with a similar attitude and feel that it has paid off. A friend just got a bike 2 weeks ago after not riding for about 5 years. The first thing he said to me after following me down a twisty bit the other day was "damn, your smooth!" This piece also reminds me of another great article called "The Pace". Articles like this make me renew my subscription to MO. Thanks

07-27-2005, 05:08 PM	#18
pdad13 Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,753	Re: The Art and Magic of Controlling a Motorcycle Funny, I was thinking about "The Pace" and Nick Ienatch, too. He reprises the theme in his book "Sport Riding Techniques." Everyone should read it when they get a chance.

07-27-2005, 06:24 PM	#19
Abe_Froman Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 878	Re: The Art and Magic of Controlling a Motorcycle untouchable? No. What other people do is out of my control. I could get rear ended, I could have someone pull out in front of me (had this happen a couple times, practiced crash avoidance) and get taken out by something beyond my control. Of course I've done little street riding lately but anyway. All I'm saying is that avoiding a crash so far is because I ride within my personal limits and mitigate the risk. However it might appear to some to be reckless because I don't neccessarily obey the law. I was, however, that 21-year old on the GSXR600 at one time. I did some stupid things, had some close calls but never destroyed my bike.

07-27-2005, 07:15 PM	#20
Grum Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 77	3rd Post, actually, but I guess you realise that by now. Commiserations and lamentations on your failed claim to First Postdom. No membership to MOFPC for you. __________________ President, First Post Club.