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mscuddy · 07-29-2004, 01:16 PM

I don't know, man. These Victory's just don't do it for me.

I mean, why buy an obvious Harley clone, when you can buy the real thing? Polaris is a division of Fuji Heavy Industries, BTW, and the worlds 2nd largest maker of ATVs.

4 valve heads, overhead cams, oil cooled passenger seats, etc. etc.. Christ, it could have JATO bottles, and it'd still be just what it is: A Harley Copy. Albeit a high-tech one.

I know, you'll all be saying "yeah, but that's what you can say about any big V-twin cruiser, if you want". But really, take a close look. It mimiks the entire "custom" Harley ideal.

Now if they'd just put that hi-tech V twin in a Buell-like frame...out-Harley a Buell.

theDuke · 07-29-2004, 02:40 PM

I think the new models, in particular the Vegas, look really great. They would look even better if they were a few thousand dollars less expensive... but that's another thread.

However, I've yet to see a single Vegas or Kingpin on the road despite there being a few of their dealers nearby, including Arlen Ness's own shop right up the road.

How have their new models been selling? All of the dealers I've visited had a ton of them available for sale. Are there some deals to be made?

longride · 07-30-2004, 02:56 AM

You don't think they hired Arlen Ness to make it look more like a Victory and less like a Harley do ya? Your comments are spot on.

mscuddy · 07-30-2004, 05:21 AM

Thanks. I think the folks at Polecatus are missing a big chance here, seeing how saturated the V-Twin cruiser market is.

Why don't they put that motor in a modern chassis, not a Buell copy, but at least something nice & new, with good forks and a (gasp) single shock?

Make the "other" American motorcycle, that has more than 3 inches of suspension travel, and doesn't handle like a wheelbarrow.

After all, Fuji Heavy Industries (Subaru, Teledyne-Wisconsin, Robin, Moterenfabrik Hatz Gmbh, China North Industries) just acquired part of Suzuki; maybe they can inject a little GSX into the Victory design.

Take a look at Fuji's golf carts, ATVs and Snow Mobiles...can you say Polaris?

longride · 07-30-2004, 05:48 AM

How about an affordable Confederate Hellcat? Now that would be cool.

mscuddy · 07-30-2004, 06:06 AM

Go to the Polaris & Fuji Heavy Industries wesites. Do a little searching, it's all there

(Polaris-Fuji-Robin Industrial engine division, golf carts, atvs & snowmobiles).

07-29-2004, 01:16 PM	#23
mscuddy MODERATOR X Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Next to my still checkin the temp. Posts: 5,447	Re: 2005 Victory Motorcycles I don't know, man. These Victory's just don't do it for me. I mean, why buy an obvious Harley clone, when you can buy the real thing? Polaris is a division of Fuji Heavy Industries, BTW, and the worlds 2nd largest maker of ATVs. 4 valve heads, overhead cams, oil cooled passenger seats, etc. etc.. Christ, it could have JATO bottles, and it'd still be just what it is: A Harley Copy. Albeit a high-tech one. I know, you'll all be saying "yeah, but that's what you can say about any big V-twin cruiser, if you want". But really, take a close look. It mimiks the entire "custom" Harley ideal. Now if they'd just put that hi-tech V twin in a Buell-like frame...out-Harley a Buell. __________________ A gun is a tool, Marian; no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.

07-29-2004, 02:40 PM	#24
theDuke Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 94	Victory Sales? I think the new models, in particular the Vegas, look really great. They would look even better if they were a few thousand dollars less expensive... but that's another thread. However, I've yet to see a single Vegas or Kingpin on the road despite there being a few of their dealers nearby, including Arlen Ness's own shop right up the road. How have their new models been selling? All of the dealers I've visited had a ton of them available for sale. Are there some deals to be made?

07-30-2004, 02:56 AM	#25
longride Super Duper Mod Man Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Anywhere they let me Posts: 10,484	Re: 2005 Victory Motorcycles You don't think they hired Arlen Ness to make it look more like a Victory and less like a Harley do ya? Your comments are spot on. __________________ I'm a knucklehead

07-30-2004, 05:21 AM	#26
mscuddy MODERATOR X Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Next to my still checkin the temp. Posts: 5,447	Re: 2005 Victory Motorcycles Thanks. I think the folks at Polecatus are missing a big chance here, seeing how saturated the V-Twin cruiser market is. Why don't they put that motor in a modern chassis, not a Buell copy, but at least something nice & new, with good forks and a (gasp) single shock? Make the "other" American motorcycle, that has more than 3 inches of suspension travel, and doesn't handle like a wheelbarrow. After all, Fuji Heavy Industries (Subaru, Teledyne-Wisconsin, Robin, Moterenfabrik Hatz Gmbh, China North Industries) just acquired part of Suzuki; maybe they can inject a little GSX into the Victory design. Take a look at Fuji's golf carts, ATVs and Snow Mobiles...can you say Polaris? __________________ A gun is a tool, Marian; no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.

07-30-2004, 05:48 AM	#29
longride Super Duper Mod Man Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Anywhere they let me Posts: 10,484	Re: 2005 Victory Motorcycles How about an affordable Confederate Hellcat? Now that would be cool. __________________ I'm a knucklehead

07-30-2004, 06:06 AM	#30
mscuddy MODERATOR X Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Next to my still checkin the temp. Posts: 5,447	Re: Polaris part of Fuji ????? Show me. Go to the Polaris & Fuji Heavy Industries wesites. Do a little searching, it's all there (Polaris-Fuji-Robin Industrial engine division, golf carts, atvs & snowmobiles). __________________ A gun is a tool, Marian; no better or no worse than any other tool: an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.