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Old 04-10-2004, 06:01 AM   #61
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Exactly. The obvious upside is that you can usually find exactly what you want. And the truth is that sellers do have a vested interest in being honest. The scams make up a very small portion of the activity, and like I said above, you can usually spot them a mile away.



Note: I was looking for a bike for a friend and saw a 2002 Honda 919 with 2200 miles and a Two Brothers exaust listed for a Buy it Now price of $4850 (for the ebay unititiated, this means you can hit a button, buy the bike, and end the auction right there). And it's legit.



The only problem is that, after a few days, the seller saw that the bidding would probably exceed his B.I.N. price removed the B.I.N. option. The winning bidder will probably still get the bike for a little over $5,000. That's a real good buy.



But if my friend had pulled the trigger, he would have gotten it for $4850. Plus about $500 for shipping. You can't beat that.
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Old 04-10-2004, 06:06 AM   #62
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Um, I meant "uninitiated."
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Old 04-10-2004, 06:11 AM   #63
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Default Economics...

First of all let me state clearly that I am not a republican. I hate republicans.



As for your statement on exporting jobs...



This is simply ignorance of basic economics. Don't feel bad though. People graduate every day with degrees in Economics that are just as ignorant.



When companies save money by producing things cheaper overseas, they sell them cheaper here. Also, as more and more companies go overseas, the cost of overseas labor increases, so it becomes less profitable for companies to do so.



This whole scam is ignoring the money that is saved and therefore spend, elsewhere in the economy. I get a cheaper stereo, then I spend more money on cd's.



What you are actually arguing for Kpaul, is higher prices.



WE SUPPORT HIGH PRICES ON GOODS!!!



See how far that get's ya in an election.

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Old 04-10-2004, 06:25 AM   #64
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Default Resale

If anyone was doubting the crappy resale value of Japanese bikes a 2002 with a nice exhaust $4850 pretty much explains everything.
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Old 04-10-2004, 08:57 AM   #66
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Default Re: Economics 101 for idiots It's different this time around dufus

KPaul



I suspect mile_eater is from a part of the country that has very little high-tech jobs. I spent the last few months in Asia with visits to India.



Yes people should be concerned. These jobs that are being taken are high tech jobs. Jobs that won't be replaced.



Unfornuately, the current Bush Administration is under the false impression that the market will work this out or that training is the answer. The big quetion is what should people train themselves for.



In addition, other countries are not playing fair. China has pegged its currency rates at artificial level to dump products on the market to eliminate American firms from the market place. When there rates change there won't be any American firms around to competion.



Another key point that the article you cited raised is that American corporations are currently given incentives to ship jobs overseas. American CEOs have to learn that if they want all the advantages of being a U.S. company then they have responsiblities to this country. If they don't then one proposal floating around is to seperate these firms into "international companies" who can't bid for U.S. or State contracts. I wonder how large aerospace companies like Lockheed-Martin and Boeing would change policy if they weren't allowed to bid on government contracts.



I think that if the American worker is given a level playing field we will be alright. The problem is that we have been programed to think that there is something unAmerican to stand up for worker rights. i.e. play by the rules of economics. In this case the rules are stacked against Americans.



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Old 04-10-2004, 09:39 AM   #67
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Sad but true, and yet the crappy resale values create great buying opportunities for those who recognize a good bike at a good price. I actually bid on that 919 in Houston when it was at a lower price. I asked a few questions and got a nice note back from the owner, apparently he has a motorcycle restoration business there.
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Old 04-10-2004, 11:26 AM   #68
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Default I knew it was too good to be true.

He's off his medication again folks.



It's interesting that the KPaul aliases put things in bold font just like KPaul!
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Old 04-10-2004, 11:28 AM   #69
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I was curious about litre bikes lately and looked up CBR954s and R1s. Since the newer versions are out prices have plummeted. It's amazing that if the previous squid owner polished his frame, the value just completely crashes.



I didn't buy one. I bought a Brutale instead.
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Old 04-10-2004, 12:33 PM   #70
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I see your point. Here in CA, I can find ANYTHING in the cycle trader within a 2 hr drive so its not the same.
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