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Old 01-02-2002, 12:00 PM   #11
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Default Re: MO goes Subscription

I like the new format. Very nice. I donated some time ago. I don't remember when. What's the "its time to ante up again" mechanism? Is there some warning? Print mags send out their endless reminders. Will yours be the e-mail variety? Is the term one year, more? After the term, does access just shut off or is there a grace period? If I have tired of my login name, can it be changed? I couldn't (in a quick glance) find these answers. What say you?



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Old 01-02-2002, 12:23 PM   #12
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If you subscribe at $24.94 or higher, you won't see that ad, or any others. Although it's taking some time to implement site-wide, we're quickly removing the ads for such subscribers.



Conversely, the Buell ad was a premium buy. I'm sick of not having the capitol to take MO where it should be (and not having enough staff so I don't have to work until 3:00 AM), so, I guess you get to pick your poison now
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Old 01-02-2002, 12:26 PM   #13
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We're resetting all past donators today to have a full year going forward. So you shouldn't have to do anything.



When you get within a month of expiring, we're sending out e-mails asking you to re-sub via credit card or snail mail check.



Many new community things are coming up now that I've gotten the subscription code working well, although dealing with Authorize.Net outages like this morning aren't handled well -- we've been using them for years, and I think this is the first time they've been unavailable for an extended period. We lost about 100 subscribers, hopefully they'll come back later (which seems likely as most e-mailed in nice letters that it wasn't working well and that they would be back later).
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Old 01-02-2002, 12:30 PM   #14
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The plan is that all original content is subscription, and all the news (like here at news.mo) and community services are free.



The chat server is free, too, although there's no longer any way to register without paying yet, I'm working on that. The new registration process I wrote is slick, so I'm removing the credit card stuff to make it a one-step process to register and get your password -- I hate online registering, so I think it's important that it's as easy as possible.



So, if you're just cruising around to interact with other bikers, it should be free. But if you want access to the latest content about the latest bikes, it'll be subscription.
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Old 01-02-2002, 12:32 PM   #15
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Changing MO Usernames is on the way, and a good idea. I like to change mine, it's nice to be able to when you get sick of the bike you tagged into your username and sell it.



Reminders will be via e-mail, a month in advance, and the subscription time is one year, though we're thinking of having a one-month for $3.95 option.



Accounts stay around, but you just won't be able to read subscription stuff if you let yours expire, though you will be able to get everything else.
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Old 01-02-2002, 01:11 PM   #16
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Knew it was coming - will pay - worried it may kill the site though with MCN and the like not being subscription..



I think you will need to do more bike tests though and have daily updates.



Good luck guys



BTW. Ride the adventure tourers for 10k (or 20 - or 50) and then tell me the GS isn't the best adventure tourer.



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Old 01-02-2002, 01:22 PM   #17
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WooHOO!! Another YEAR!!



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Old 01-02-2002, 03:07 PM   #18
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Subscribe, HELL NO!!!!!!!! I've been reading your half-assed reviews for some time now and couldn't imagine actually paying for it. If I wanted to pay for a web site I would spend my money on porn. Don't your advertisers pay for this site anyway? Are you going to totaly do away with them? I doubt it! I think my $12 would be better spent on any number of moto mags. For the same price your trying to swindle from your readers, I can have a 100 page (or more) magazine in my hands every month, full of excellent articles and photography. You guys sure do have the nerve!



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Old 01-02-2002, 03:26 PM   #19
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Congrats to MO for going subscription. I have no problem paying for a quality service, and MO is a high quality, informative and fun site. $12 a year? Hell, I blow that on drinks after work. Daily. No sweat.



The spinning Buell ad is cool. The first time. But I don't like it following me down the page. Enough already.



By the way, my site is free (and always will be). I don't sell anything on the site, so I'm not shilling here. Hope you all take a look after sending MO a well-deserved 12 bones. The new look is great, keep the content coming.



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Old 01-02-2002, 03:28 PM   #20
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Oh dear, a pity. When you first proposed this I told you I wouldn't be subscribing, but I did say that I'd be happy to open my wallet to a micro-billing scheme, and I even suggested one to you. Well, you've done what you always planned to and gone subscription, and I'll do what I always planned to if you did and walk away. It's been fun, but not enough fun that I'll pay a subscription to read it.



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