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Old 11-01-2000, 06:39 PM   #61
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Default Re: You have been duped by the insurance companies

Well, duh. But there's government at other levels. I would submit that in America, the squeeky wheel gets the grease. But your reasons are why I want to devote my life to making the sytem better, rather than cynically discounting the whole mess.



That's Abe's trip- he says everything he doesn't like is illigitimate, wrong, immoral, and the result of a conspiracy. If I was as honestly cynical and turned off as the Sausage King, I'd leave the country and pack my casings elsewhere.
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Old 11-01-2000, 06:54 PM   #62
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Default Oh, yeah, that speed limit stuff.

Yeah, I was saying Bluto's post was well-written, intelligent, and gave me plenty to think about. If I sounded dismissive, well, what can I say? I'm a law student, they train you to do that.



You're right, there's plenty of stuff I enjoy doing the government says I can't do. And I do speed, quite a bit.



Maybe I should have said: there's nothing illegal I enjoy doing that I don't just do it anyway.



But I think my point in this whole helmet thing is this: government limits on something don't always lead to more limits, and limits are neccessary to a well-ordered, prosperous society. Our system of government is generally a good one, not illigitimate, nazi-esque, or dominated by stupid, immoral, jack-booted thugs.



I risked my life for this country, and I am proud of it. Our system of government has produced the most emulated, powerful, wealthy and stable societies the world has ever seen. There's a zillion people waiting to get in.



Sure, it could be better. That's why I involve myself with local politics and study law. What do you do to make it better?



BTW, an itchfork is used to scratch an itch between your shoulder blades. You should get one.
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Old 11-01-2000, 11:02 PM   #63
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The state should not be in the business of taking care of ANYONE.

The duty of the state is to PROMOTE the general wellfare and PROVIDE the common defence...

NOT vice verca.
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Old 11-02-2000, 01:54 AM   #64
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What a stupid question from another stupid rag. The real question should be "Is Maxim magazine written by assholes?" Damn, makes me want to get a subscription just so I can cancel the thing. Good goin Maxim, that little questionaire probably killed a few thousand young riders who now think it's "uncool" to ride without one. Dumbasses. Fire the that wanted that one to go to print.



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Old 11-02-2000, 07:16 AM   #65
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the Challanger ... my bad ... thanks for setting it straight.
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Old 11-02-2000, 07:32 AM   #66
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OH yeah ... what about a BJ ... I'd rather get that from a pro ... but I'd still remember that safety device. Just a thought. Leaning on my Bike with the centerstand down ... right !!!
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Old 11-02-2000, 07:45 AM   #67
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Default Re: Touchy, touchy!

So the fifth amendment only constrains the government? Is it okay then for me to kill you, as long as I'm not being paid by the government to do it? Once again, quick-witted Gabe opens mouth, inserts foot. That's okay, folks, nobody likes him very much.
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Old 11-02-2000, 10:02 AM   #68
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Default Re: Oh, yeah, that speed limit stuff.

Our system of government would not have produced the emulated, prosperous society that we have had it been instituted with the limits we are now constratined by. It's obvious that your liberal indoctrination has been methodical and severe.



Our SYSTEM of government is good, however, those in charge have chucked the constituiton to the wind, so the net effect of our government is nowhere near the founders' original vision. The American Revolution occurred because taxes were raised a couple of pennies. Income taxes didn't exist. The effective tax rate, even for someone making a modest salary such as mine, is now approaching 40-50%. Any government with such confiscatory tax policies is surely illegitimate, especially when the majority of said tax is merely transferred to someone else (after the appropriate cut is taken out by beaurocrats.) The mere idea of entitlements, that someone else is entitled to MY money, is disgusting. If you want evidence that this country is run by stupid, immoral, jack-booted thugs, disregard your tax return for a couple of years. You will find out first hand. Ask Elian Gonzalez. He was kidnapped by government agents weilding automatic weapons that we are barred from owning so he could be sent to a communist country.
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Old 11-02-2000, 10:19 AM   #69
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Excellent post----



I agree, the legimacy of law depends upon the legitimancy of autority which enacted it. Our constitution, however, is singular among government charters for recognizing that there are rights that are God-given; the job of government is to secure those rights, not grant them. This distiction has fostered the rise of the most powerful and prosperous empire the world has ever known. The difficulty with this has become the temptation for those we entrust to represent us (and our rights) to act like kings. This leads them to "find" new meanings in the constitution, wholly apart from the original intent. The end result is that the constitution has become alterable, and what becomes of a government with the ability to change the meaning of the that places limits on itself? It becomes a government of men; serving the intrests of whosoever happens to be the current elect. Our current government can surely be considered oppressive, given the attitude with which those that govern regard its charter.
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Old 11-03-2000, 10:05 AM   #70
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For once, Gabe you hit the nail on the head. When I geniunely don't like something, it's generally because it's illegitimate, immoral, or wrong. However, I never implied anything about a conspiracy. I don't think that the abuse of governmental power is anything but the natural tendency of government; it is not any great conspiracy or even surprise. Governments throughout history have proven this. My problem is that our constitution would be enough to prevent this, had it been strictly followed.
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