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Old 05-12-2007, 08:25 AM   #1
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I've spent a lot of time in traffic court too, but on the other side of the equation as jthurber80. In Florida, I can tell you that going to the attorneys is a no-brainer. In my experience, the "Ticket Clinic" type specialists are extremely effective. The worst case I've ever experienced was having to pay court costs and attend traffic school. No points, no hit to the insurance rates. Many times the charges were dropped on a technicality like radar gun calibration. HOWEVER, the going rate down here is more like $200.00 or less for non-criminal infractions. I think there's collusion between the attorneys and the judges; the judges just process the attorney cases through as quickly as possible to get the cases cleared and off their dockets. I like it because I don't have to appear anywhere at any time, I mail the ticket to the attorney, pay over the phone with debit card, and if needed, take the "class" online via website.



If the price where you are is really $2,500, I think jthurber is right; you have nothing to lose by showing up and seeing if the judge will work with you. I got popped in Phoenix at 120 on the VFR when I was briefly working in AZ. I tried to find a traffic attorney; apparently they don't have ticket attorneys there. So I went to the hearing, the judge said $300, and I was on my way.
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Old 05-12-2007, 08:58 AM   #2
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I have one speeding ticket, which was about a year ago. That's my whole ticket history.



I called 3 attorneys, one came highly recommended. It turns out it's 300 bucks for speeding tickets but pretty much 2000 + bucks for reckless driving. Apparently in Washington state a wheelie is always a reckless driving punishable offense, which is a gross misdemeanor.
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Old 05-12-2007, 09:05 AM   #3
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A 15-mph wheelie is reckless driving? So, what's the charge for driving a two-ton SUV while talking on the phone?



Silly me. Cellphone-yakking soccer taxi jockeys are a FAR higher proportion of the electorate than motorcyclists.
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Old 05-12-2007, 09:13 AM   #4
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Yike, that's a lot of money. Guess there's no downside to going to the initial hearing and seeing if you can get away with reduced charge, adjudication withheld, or whatever is the equivalent in WA.
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Old 05-12-2007, 09:31 AM   #5
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SEE THE EVIDENCE!. If you are going to defend yourself in this case you have the right to see the evidence that the police have in implicate you. Ask to see it. If they cannot produce it upon demand then ask for a motions hearing and have the judge produce the tape or have it disqualified as evidence. It's that simple.

If it is obious that you were acting malicious then I suggest you pay the fine. However, if the act does not look malicious then ask for a jury trial and ask your peers. Bring you life driving history to court as evidence that you are a law abiding motorcyclist and that this case on its merrits should be dismissed because the act was unintentional.
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Old 05-12-2007, 10:24 AM   #6
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If Wa. is like Ca. traffic school only works if your last ticket is 18 months or older. I got a 74 in a 50 and took the class online, no points. Unfortunately, 17 months later to the day, 67 in a 55 cost me a point.
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Old 05-12-2007, 10:28 AM   #7
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Welp you still had an option. Like thurber says, the judge can make the ultimate decision.



If you had showed up in court and asked him, he may have said yes.
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Old 05-12-2007, 10:46 AM   #8
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Buzz, I'm too important to spend a day in court to fight a $100 ticket
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Old 05-12-2007, 10:51 AM   #9
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Unfortunately this is a criminal infraction, a gross misdemeanor. Year in jail maximum penalty. No traffic school for me.
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Old 05-12-2007, 11:33 AM   #10
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Before my big accident I got the same ticket, wheelie & speeding.



To make a long story short I paid a $900.00 fine, they dropped the misdemenor charge to an infraction, but I did have to get booked into jail (in a wheelchair).



I did have to secure a lawer though, the prosecutor was some zelot who wanted me off the street for good. She got her wish btw.



(the lawer cost $600.00)



Good luck. Expect your insurance to go through the roof.
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