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rbitra 04-30-2007 09:08 AM

Re: Illinois State Trooper Says Car Drivers Are To Blame.
 
first

tripleripple 04-30-2007 09:10 AM

Re: Illinois State Trooper Says Car Drivers Are To Blame.
 
1,000 pound motorcycles? Huh...

acecycleins 04-30-2007 09:11 AM

Re: Illinois State Trooper Says Car Drivers Are To Blame.
 
whodathunk

naco_traficante 04-30-2007 09:21 AM

yeah ... bikers get what they deserve
 
So if law enforcement officers acknowledge that cars are cutting off bikers why don't we have public awareness campaigns or procecution of drivers who cause accidents ? Because John Q. Public still thinks that we shouldn't be on the streets in the first place.




boru4761 04-30-2007 09:47 AM

Re: yeah ... bikers get what they deserve
 
While I agree with you, more and more of the cops that I know ride moto and are sympathetic to the cause. So, we just need a way to get more people out of there excursions and onto the seat of a fine motoscoot....hmmm....



I know! Higher gas prices!

pdad13 04-30-2007 09:49 AM

And Yet...
 
...the article is still titled "Motorcycle Dangers."





Farkin' morons.

schizuki 04-30-2007 10:20 AM

Re: Illinois State Trooper Says Car Drivers Are To Blame.
 
"tap your horn or your brights if you have too.."



Horn, yes. Brights, no. I don't know about out West, but in the Northeast, flicking your brights means "go ahead."

sarnali2 04-30-2007 10:52 AM

Re: Illinois State Trooper Says Car Drivers Are To Blame.
 
I see Illinois is at the cutting edge of Motorcycle Safety: "wear a helmet and have a working headlight"......sound advice from you're local law enforcment officials !



He's of course right though, I'm done with the black leather/dark clothes thing. I wear bright riding gear w/reflective surfaces on for my commute, it's just not worth the risk anymore to look cool. I'd rather be shade your eyes bright that everyone in the car sees.


Kenneth_Moore 04-30-2007 10:54 AM

And Now, For Something Completely Different
 
Here's an article that appeared in this Sunday's Orlando Sentinel:



http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-m...,5450882.story



This was the Sunday front-page article, with a banner headline. The salient points seem to be:



"And contrary to the notion that careless automobile drivers cause most accidents involving motorcycles, last year's deadly crashes were caused by the bikers themselves more than two-thirds of the time."



64 of the dead were sport-bike riders; 55 rode some other form of motorcycle.



Eight in 10 riders who died did not have insurance.



70 percent were at fault.



41 percent were not wearing helmets; Florida has no mandatory helmet law for riders older than 21.



A quarter of them did not have a license to drive a motorcycle in Florida.



At least one in five was drunk or under the influence of drugs, according to autopsy reports after the crashes.





So much for "situational awareness," beeping horns, and making eye contact. Sure, the cagers kill or maim a lot of us, but the Sentinel says we're doing a fine job of killing ourselves. I have no way of knowing how valid their statistics are, but my anecdotal knowledge from decades of riding bears out the conclusion.


Kenneth_Moore 04-30-2007 10:54 AM

And Now, For Something Completely Different
 
Here's an article that appeared in this Sunday's Orlando Sentinel:



http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-m...,5450882.story



This was the Sunday front-page article, with a banner headline. The salient points seem to be:



"And contrary to the notion that careless automobile drivers cause most accidents involving motorcycles, last year's deadly crashes were caused by the bikers themselves more than two-thirds of the time."



64 of the dead were sport-bike riders; 55 rode some other form of motorcycle.



Eight in 10 riders who died did not have insurance.



70 percent were at fault.



41 percent were not wearing helmets; Florida has no mandatory helmet law for riders older than 21.



A quarter of them did not have a license to drive a motorcycle in Florida.



At least one in five was drunk or under the influence of drugs, according to autopsy reports after the crashes.





So much for "situational awareness," beeping horns, and making eye contact. Sure, the cagers kill or maim a lot of us, but the Sentinel says we're doing a fine job of killing ourselves. I have no way of knowing how valid their statistics are, but my anecdotal knowledge from decades of riding bears out the conclusion.



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