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John8850 · 10-22-2006, 04:57 PM

First post!

Road and Track does a feature like this every few years...I remember they did a Dodge Viper vs. the first-generation Yamaha R1...Viper won.

Haru · 10-22-2006, 05:26 PM

I am sick of this question. unless you are king of your own heap (bike or car) what does it matter whether one is faster than the other or not?

If somebody else is faster than you on two wheels or four, you need to quit yapping about whether 2 wheels are faster or 4 because in your world its you who's slow, and not the car (or the bike).

not that the bench racers will stop with this. the most amazing thing I've realized is that the really fast guys, on two wheels or four, are the ones who are modest and humble about their speed and who are secure enough to not get into bench racing of this sort.

[b]They're focused on how they can do better, not what they can boast to others about their own choice of hobby, nonsense like "my gixxer would beat that ferrari around laguna seca"

gforces · 10-22-2006, 05:50 PM

Two different worlds. INMHO, one can't compare. I find the fast car drivers are into bikes as well. The slow car drivers (but with fat wallets) usually feel threatened by the likes of <$10k bikes that can whoop their a$$es.

RonXX · 10-22-2006, 06:27 PM

I agree. It seems like the most insecure car drivers are the ones with the $35K, 230 HP(or whatever they had last year) BMW 3 series. Of course let's not forget about the teenage boy with the commuter car wearing a Folger's can on the exhaust pipe. He is so desperate to have a tale of motorized domination to ensnare potential vaginal donors, that he is willing to kill you for it.

Holy_Kaw · 10-22-2006, 06:28 PM

Who are these guys? I demand MR. ALLCAPS and his Gixxer Thou represent us! With the recent Aero-mods to the brain tank he'd smoke the cages! Remember when the guy went 0-100-0 on the bike before the Vette went 0-100?

The_AirHawk · 10-22-2006, 06:55 PM

You're referring to Kevin Schwantz, and the Motorcyclist article from April 2002 with a Corvette ZO6 vs. a GSXR1000

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Or howzabout the Top Gear episode of the Yamaha R1 Vs. Porsche Carrera?

It really seems that the "winner" just depends on who is trying to prove what to whom. While the Top Gear segment is a bit entertaining, the host is really an abrasive Jackass toward motorcyclists and American-made Autos, and always has been. Like Dave DeSpain, he can BITE ME.

Fangit1 · 10-22-2006, 07:25 PM

Yeh I remember that too... They had that fat mag editor, wannabe riding the bike. No wonder it lost. A decent rider would have been at least 5-10 seconds quicker.

Every similar track comparison I've seen where they had proper racers riding/driving, the bike always won.

sarnali2 · 10-22-2006, 07:40 PM

I'd be a little leary about getting on the track with a car anyway, I'd be afraid the guy would lose it and nail me on his way through the hay bails.

tripleripple · 10-22-2006, 08:01 PM

Honda CBR1000RR: $11,499

Porsche 911 Turbo: $122,900

Proof that if you grow a sack you can save big bucks and still have a machine that will laugh at you every time you think you're going fast. (Now that Porsche went back to the round headlights, that new Turbo is the cat's ass though). Anyway, the car has to be much, much easier to drive fast. Even though you don't want anything bad to happen, the driver still knows in the back of his mind that seatbelts, abs, traction control, reinforced frames, crumple zones, and airbags are all there to help out should anything go awry (nevermind you would be wadding up a $130K German supercar...).

Gluge · 10-22-2006, 08:20 PM

how's this -

My Honda RS125 would beat a 911 around WSIR.

You know bikes are faster when a 125cc can beat some of the 'best' sports cars out there

10-22-2006, 04:57 PM	#1
John8850 Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3	Re: Car vs. Bike First post! Road and Track does a feature like this every few years...I remember they did a Dodge Viper vs. the first-generation Yamaha R1...Viper won.

10-22-2006, 05:26 PM	#2
Haru Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 154	Re: Car vs. Bike I am sick of this question. unless you are king of your own heap (bike or car) what does it matter whether one is faster than the other or not? If somebody else is faster than you on two wheels or four, you need to quit yapping about whether 2 wheels are faster or 4 because in your world its you who's slow, and not the car (or the bike). not that the bench racers will stop with this. the most amazing thing I've realized is that the really fast guys, on two wheels or four, are the ones who are modest and humble about their speed and who are secure enough to not get into bench racing of this sort. [b]They're focused on how they can do better, not what they can boast to others about their own choice of hobby, nonsense like "my gixxer would beat that ferrari around laguna seca"

10-22-2006, 05:50 PM	#3
gforces Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 306	apples and oranges Two different worlds. INMHO, one can't compare. I find the fast car drivers are into bikes as well. The slow car drivers (but with fat wallets) usually feel threatened by the likes of <$10k bikes that can whoop their a$$es.

10-22-2006, 06:27 PM	#4
RonXX Founding Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 273	Re: apples and oranges I agree. It seems like the most insecure car drivers are the ones with the $35K, 230 HP(or whatever they had last year) BMW 3 series. Of course let's not forget about the teenage boy with the commuter car wearing a Folger's can on the exhaust pipe. He is so desperate to have a tale of motorized domination to ensnare potential vaginal donors, that he is willing to kill you for it.

10-22-2006, 06:28 PM	#5
Holy_Kaw Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,230	Re: Car vs. Bike Who are these guys? I demand MR. ALLCAPS and his Gixxer Thou represent us! With the recent Aero-mods to the brain tank he'd smoke the cages! Remember when the guy went 0-100-0 on the bike before the Vette went 0-100?

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10-22-2006, 06:55 PM	#6
The_AirHawk Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Livin' in a Van: down by the Mariana Trench Posts: 10,891	Re: Car vs. Bike You're referring to Kevin Schwantz, and the Motorcyclist article from April 2002 with a Corvette ZO6 vs. a GSXR1000 Page One Page Two Page Three Page Four Page Five Page Six Page Seven Page Eight Page Nine Or howzabout the Top Gear episode of the Yamaha R1 Vs. Porsche Carrera? It really seems that the "winner" just depends on who is trying to prove what to whom. While the Top Gear segment is a bit entertaining, the host is really an abrasive Jackass toward motorcyclists and American-made Autos, and always has been. Like Dave DeSpain, he can BITE ME. __________________ *Parfois, on fait pas semblant* Sometimes, it's not pretend Oderint Dum Metuant Let them hate so long as they fear политики предпочитают безоружных крестьян Politicians Prefer Unarmed Peasants Nothing to see here, Citizen. Move along now...

10-22-2006, 07:25 PM	#7
Fangit1 Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 15	Re: Car vs. Bike Yeh I remember that too... They had that fat mag editor, wannabe riding the bike. No wonder it lost. A decent rider would have been at least 5-10 seconds quicker. Every similar track comparison I've seen where they had proper racers riding/driving, the bike always won.

10-22-2006, 07:40 PM	#8
sarnali2 Aging Cafe` Racer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Sittin' down by my window, lookin' at the rain. Posts: 8,132	Re: Car vs. Bike I'd be a little leary about getting on the track with a car anyway, I'd be afraid the guy would lose it and nail me on his way through the hay bails. __________________ "Carpe` Throttelum -Loud Suits Save Lives" "All the BMW riders in the room, I want you to leave. Now. Out. "

10-22-2006, 08:01 PM	#9
tripleripple Founding Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lightly Fortified Compound (apartment): Chicago, IL Posts: 421	Re: Car vs. Bike Honda CBR1000RR: $11,499 Porsche 911 Turbo: $122,900 Proof that if you grow a sack you can save big bucks and still have a machine that will laugh at you every time you think you're going fast. (Now that Porsche went back to the round headlights, that new Turbo is the cat's ass though). Anyway, the car has to be much, much easier to drive fast. Even though you don't want anything bad to happen, the driver still knows in the back of his mind that seatbelts, abs, traction control, reinforced frames, crumple zones, and airbags are all there to help out should anything go awry (nevermind you would be wadding up a $130K German supercar...).

10-22-2006, 08:20 PM	#10
Gluge Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Santa Monica, CA Posts: 352	Re: Car vs. Bike how's this - My Honda RS125 would beat a 911 around WSIR. You know bikes are faster when a 125cc can beat some of the 'best' sports cars out there __________________ #867 Barrett Meeker Racing Gaerne - Regina - Shoei - Bridgestone ----------- Supervisor - Blur Studio Endorsed by Longride - "Of course your points are unarguable. You are the smartest guy in the whole world ... What you really taught me is how little I really know about motorcycles and how much you know. Yes, you are the best and the smartest."