sconley

...No worries, I often throw stuff back in the pot myself... I think we all do whether we are aware of it or not... But I am flattered, glad you enjoyed the obervation... I actually used to put those playing cards on my bike... Except I had Skyway Tuff Wheel II mags and the kids with the spokes sounded way cooler just on the "spoke:mag ratio principle." ...No matter how fast I peddled, the mags sounded like I was at idle all the time. Anyway, I'd like to say I outgrew it but my duc has Termignoni pipes and my R6 has a slip-on... Nothing too annoying but I could see that those that aren't "into" bikes would rather not hear anything... Actually, I wish the r6 was stock; I bought it that way. The duc/termi combo I like and admittedly would have a tough time being forced to go back to the stock cans/sound... Tough topic, though I think even loud pipes are only annoyingly loud when you want them to be... The annoyance and the shame has more to do with the type of rider who thinks it's cool to WOT any bike (stock or otherwise) while in a congested public area.

dean_1

OK. Let's cut out the crap. Here's the way it works.



Motorcyclists are as unique as the middle-aged guy in the two year old Buick. Trust me on this (I used to be one) a middle aged guy in a fairly new Buick can get away with most anything. A vehicle repleat with Cruise-A-Line-Vent-A-Ports driven by a man who is no longer young is the best roadside plea bargain ever invented.

There are easier targets and more threatening profiles.

I hate to say it but the poor and defenseless are most vulnerable and motorcyclist are not profiled as poor and defenseless. You may find random areas that enforce a noise ordinance for a limited time but the reality is you can use open pipes nationwide with impunity and it's been that way since HD had the Feds lay the tariff down.

Cathar

Should've known better than to expect a well reasoned response.

Fenton

Have you noticed a lot of "ricers" think asshats ride sportbikes and HDs with loud exhausts.



I had a thunderheader on my fatboy, set off too many car alarms. I've had aftermarket exhaust on my sportbikes, too loud up top. What's your point? The v-twin poser crowd is the biggest problem with the exhaust noise. Not to mention, I don't "cruise" through town on my sportbike. Nor did I "blip" my throttle every 3 seconds on my harley"S".

Speaking of the popular "blip" ask the next guy doing that if he's had his tranny checked out cause it "should" go into gear at idle.

pdad13

I had a set of Tuff Wheels on one of my BMX bikes. Unfortunately, they were too heavy for racing and I was beyond the age for the baseball card trick.

pdad13

I thought we were done with the loud pipes debate for awhile. I guess some things never get old.



It doesn't matter what kind of bike it is, excessively loud pipes are bad for all of us. But let's be honest, the vast majority of the offenders reside within the big V-twin crowd. Just like the majority of offenders of the stunting/outrageous speed problem reside within the sportbike crowd.



I don't know that the majority of big twin owners have loud pipes, but around here it's got to be close to 2/3rds. I didn't notice one standard, sportbike or sport-tourer this weekend that had an excessively loud pipe (okay, actually one KLR650 that was pretty loud). I know there are some around, but the numbers ar tiny in comparison.

jasonlion54

Hmm....



I think the point when people say that ricer bikes are only loud at high rpm's is this:



V-twins (with modded pipes) are always loud, all the time. The rider can't do anything about it.



I-4's are loud when you whack the throttle at high rpm's. However, a discerning rider can operate his bike around town without ever breaking decibel limits.



So cruisers ARE loud. Ricers CAN BE loud.



Doesn't that make cruisers more of a problem?

bigdx

Nope.



Both are illegal, both do the motorcycling a disservice, both ***** the public off a lot and both need be removed off the road. Somehow thinking one is "better than the other" is flawed reasoning and very naïve ... of course folks always seem to justify actions that they are guilty of.



That is the same stupidity as the postulation by many sport bikers that breaking the speed limits is not necessarily speeding.

bigdx

No, you donÂ’t want a well reasoned response, you me to accept your flawed justification of your transgression Â… that I will not do. Neither will Joe public.



If you pipe goes over 80db at 3 foot you are illegal, whether that happens at 2000rpm or 10000rpm. Thinking your transgression is ok because by your flawed theory it is less of a transgression than someone elseÂ’s, is ridiculous and somewhat infantile.

bk6a

as per bikes that can be loud are just as illegal as bikes that are loud...my bike can break the speed limit, but i'm legal when i don't...just like my loud in the canyons triple (yea england). of course on hd's one doesn't break the speed limit outside of school zones, so i can see why the point might be lost on you.