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Old 01-03-2006, 04:22 AM   #31
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To all you people who think this doesn't affect you: Regardless of your reason... you ride an old bike..., you think too many people ride loud bikes..., you believe the laws won't get enforced, etc..., you're not thinking this through. This encarnation may not affect you, but the next one will. Don't think they'll pass one law and stop there.

This is a classic example of how the incremental erosion of our FREEDOMS happen. They start with something common sense, that the least number of people will resist. Once that foothold is established there's no going back. They gradually add to the original (seemingly benign) law, a few lines at a time, until one day you wake up and they've added a clause that does affect you.

Wake up people! It's not a huge leap to imagine the day when helmets are mandatory (not just in Cali), engine dispalcement and horsepower are limited, or even, old bikes (polluters) are outlawed.
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Old 01-03-2006, 06:01 AM   #32
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And wives never forget,take my word for it.
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Old 01-03-2006, 09:56 AM   #33
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Yes, the ones with pockets full of bailing wire and tow ropes.
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Old 01-03-2006, 11:29 AM   #34
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It's not really an issue. New bikes are increasingly difficult and unnecessary to modify, so new laws about tampering with new bikes is just not an issue. It's the old bikes that can be modified and are fun to modify, but new laws are rarely, if ever applied to older machines. Anyway, it's already against the law in California to modify any part of the engine system since way back. But, the laws are not enforced. And this is not trivial. Local law enforcement and especially Highway Patrol are stretched so thin they couldn't possibly stop the illegal bikes.



DMV could make you test your bike for emissions to get a tag, the way they do cars, but it'll take years to define the test, set limits and license the shops to do the testing. And even then it would be for the new bikes not the old ones, just like the way they phased-in testing for cars.



Worry about something else.
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Old 01-03-2006, 08:55 PM   #35
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"This is a classic example of how the incremental erosion of our FREEDOMS happen."



It's also a classic example of how a minority of a$$holes catch the public's attention, leading to calls for politicians to "do something."



Every time some idiot pops a wheelie in traffic or blasts a baby's eardrums with his open pipes, he succeeds in drawing the attention he so pathetically craves. And the rest of us who are smart and secure enough to fly under the radar end up suffering.



"To all you people who think this doesn't affect you..."



Oh, but I do. That's why these a-holes pi$$ me off.
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Old 01-03-2006, 08:55 PM   #36
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Default Re: It could cost you $10,000.

"This is a classic example of how the incremental erosion of our FREEDOMS happen."



It's also a classic example of how a minority of a$$holes catch the public's attention, leading to calls for politicians to "do something."



Every time some idiot pops a wheelie in traffic or blasts a baby's eardrums with his open pipes, he succeeds in drawing the attention he so pathetically craves. And the rest of us who are smart and secure enough to fly under the radar end up suffering.



"To all you people who think this doesn't affect you..."



Oh, but I do. That's why these a-holes pi$$ me off.
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Old 01-04-2006, 02:50 AM   #37
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OK so it was a V8 vs. straight six, A/C etc etc, but still. 50 years!

This "comparison" is so flawed it's usless! Show me a comparison of a BASE model, light duty pickup with the exact same options as the 50s model.



I wonder why you didn't mention the test results

in the following areas:

Cold starting

Emissions

Drivability

payload capacity

comfort

saftey

handling

braking

Old trucks are nice - as long as you don't have to use them on a daily basis.
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Old 01-04-2006, 06:08 AM   #38
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<blockquote>There can be a $10,000 fine for changing air filters, exhaust, tires, cams, lifters or anything else that could motify emissions.</blockquote>





We aren't allowed to change our tires anymore? This article sounds like senseless hype driven by someone's vested interest in the custom chopper business. I tell you this, where I live, no one much cares what you do to your bike, certainly not the DMV. About the only thing that might get you a ticket is a fully open exhaust. And possibly a lack of license plate or tail light (though even riding a full-on racebike doesn't generate the attention that one might suspect, as it turns out.)



Those states that actually enforce such nonsense are the domain of the people that live there. Get it changed. If you can't, move.
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