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mikenomad 10-23-2005 07:28 AM

That's exactly right! It sucks if somebody cuts in, but you still need to keep the two-second gap.

A strategy that works if a car gets into the middle of the group is for the lead rider to start gradually slowing down. Eventually the car will get impatient and jump out of the group. Then the lead rider can bring the group back up to speed.

mikenomad 10-23-2005 07:41 AM

I couldn't see the pics earlier this morning, but now I can.

This appears to be the classic Flying Cluster***** Formation, in which you just throw a bunch of riders into one group of a few hundred riders with no plan or communication beforehand, other than, "follow the guy ahead of you."

An organized group ride is a lot more preferable, in which you break up the group, however large, into smaller groups, each with a leader who has a clear, readable, large-type route sheet to follow.

Each smaller group navigates on its own to the destination through traffic. You don't have hundreds of bikes moving aimlessly like a herd of cattle into everything in its path.

When you hit a traffic light with a herd of bikes, either they all run the red light and ***** off cross traffic (or get run over), or the group gets split up, and those in the back have to scramble to catch of with the front of the group when the light changes.

It's possible to send riders ahead to block intersections, but this puts those riders in harm's way. A better approach is to arrange with local law enforcement to have them there to block intersections along the route, but that's not easy to do.

A group of about 8 riders can navigate traffic a lot more easily than a group of 100. By doing some planning, providing route sheets, and breaking into groups of 8, you can move any number of riders safely to a destination.

sarnali 10-23-2005 08:06 AM

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Well I can see the pictures now, what a mess. Looks like more than a few were locking up the rear wheel (possibly preparing to broadslide out of danger) I though t those european guys were supposed to be all expert riders...guess not.

If you keep going down after the picture sequence, there's a link to some guy tattooing pigs. I thought it was kinda' cool...

pplassm 10-23-2005 08:27 AM

Around here, there will be an endless stream of gap fillers.

I have had people behind me get upset when I let that happen.

Screw'em. I do it anyway.

pplassm 10-23-2005 08:28 AM

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link to some guy tattooing pigs

You mean the Britney Spears link?

pplassm 10-23-2005 08:30 AM

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Anyone figure out all the bread references on the page? I assume it's in Portugese.

Fenton 10-23-2005 09:15 AM

That is exactly right. I rarely get all "type A" when there is little or no traffic. But put me on 101 with a bunch of others and I jepordize my own saftey zone to "prove" someone else is an idiot. It's called negative-sum-gain.

FrankGrimes 10-23-2005 02:25 PM

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try translating the page and couldn't figure out the bread thing

eojmo 10-23-2005 02:51 PM

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Incredible, and we supposedly intelligent humanÂ’s ridicule those fury little lemmings for the same kind of behaviour.

johnmiller 10-23-2005 03:03 PM

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Anybody notice the only "sensible" rider in this whole mess? Frames 3 & 4 black & white jacket and red helmet jumps the guardrail and leaves his bike to get to safety. Rule number 1 in an open road accident-get the hell off it!!

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