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Old 09-24-2005, 11:27 PM   #11
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Problem in the US is demand driven, not supply driven. I was talking with the owner of Cascade Moto (Triumph / Guzzi dealer in Portland, OR) last summer, and he mentioned his frustration with new riders. He had a standing offer to all new riders that he would sell them a small bike (125?), and a year later he would buy it back at the same price if they were moving up. Nobody would take it. Not manly enough for them.



All the major Japanese makers had tried bringing small displacement bikes to the US, but they never sell well enough, long enough, to be worth the hassle. The problem is that the people who need the experience most are the least likely to get it.
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Old 09-25-2005, 08:04 AM   #12
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China is the biggest threat to the U.S. as a superpower nation. Remember that Japan started out selling chinsy crap to America. You couldn't find anything that didn't say "Made in Japan" somewhere on it. And now they have a huge economy in spite of their lack of resources. Imagine the same thing with China, only they have tremendous natural and human resources.



Please, please, please do NOT buy Chinese bikes if you consider yourself an American!
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Old 09-25-2005, 08:49 AM   #13
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Wow, maybe we can get them to open a factory here...
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Old 09-25-2005, 08:56 AM   #14
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Look around your american house, almost everything is made in china. Or made from parts made in china. Though I did find it funny the other day when I unboxed a Toto Toilet (Japans #1 brand) The bowl was made in the USA but the tank and internals were made in China. No Japanese parts to be found, proving your lack of resources comment. Though buying American is still buying Chinese as we outsource everything elsewhere.
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Old 09-25-2005, 10:51 AM   #15
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This is the USA. Everyone gets a .44mag even though a .22 would do the job.
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Old 09-25-2005, 11:44 AM   #16
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LOL!

If you live in the US right now and sitting in your house/office in front of the computer. Then by your logic, 80% of everything around you is trash.
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Old 09-25-2005, 02:22 PM   #17
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Oh GOD NO! Why would we want the "Red Menace" to become even more Capitalistic and Democratic? I'd much rather they remain a Communist totalitarian state bent on wanting to kill us (rather than have us as customers....)



Look, I think it's good for competition (the Japanese ultimately made Detroit and Europe make better cars didn't they?)



Like it or not, it's truly a global economy now. Once China saw what Hong Kong could do for their cash coffers, it was really only a matter of time.



If the US still wants to compete, let them build the best possible products that may cost more, but are honestly worth the price. People get cheesed off enough with shoddy goods, they eventually learn that lesson anyway (buy quality -- and you usually just buy it just once.)



The best companies with truly "premium" -- not just "premium priced" -- products will always survive in ANY market (and be eagerly sought after by savvy consumers.)



Maybe H-D will someday wake up and take that approach to product developme.... Oh, never mind... you're probably right.
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Old 09-25-2005, 02:27 PM   #18
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Yeah that damn H-D constantly on the road to ruin.



How do they stay in business?
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Old 09-25-2005, 02:42 PM   #19
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Billhawley understands that economic power leads to political power. The Chicom leadership will learn this lesson.
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Old 09-25-2005, 06:24 PM   #20
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Or a .50 BMG.
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