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Old 07-25-2005, 11:56 AM   #81
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I am drunken sailor, and I find that comment offensive, honestly, comparing us to californians..
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Old 07-25-2005, 12:00 PM   #82
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George I don't even think you can pin this solely on liberals. I think you can, if you do enough digging, find the health insurance industry lurking in the shadows around stuff like this. Last time I checked they were equally in cahoots with anyone that they could throw money at.



But I'm with you on the JB tweak factor value and all for the bill if it passes in LA first.



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Old 07-25-2005, 12:04 PM   #83
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Tell that to the family of the innocent man that the London Police shot eight times.



Poopie happens is a cop out (no pun intended). Cops in free societies are not supposed to pump 8 rounds into anyone who is not a clear danger to someone else.



Looks to me like the score since 2001 is terrorists 4, calm and reason 0.
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Old 07-25-2005, 12:21 PM   #84
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"They that would give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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Old 07-25-2005, 12:22 PM   #85
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How many of those born again Christian right-wingers (W constituents) are radically against smoking? I now the hard-core Baptist, Mormons, etc are. longride needs to spend more time in the Red states to get an accurate picture of the average Red State resident...Think you will have to give a tour of Billy Bobs...



I agree with you there are conservatives who will favor a ban on smoking...as you said only libetarians have the high ground.
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Old 07-25-2005, 12:24 PM   #86
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I don't know Martin, the article says that the bill was sponsered, and co-sponserd by a couple of Dems. Besides that New Joisey is one of the most liberal states in the U Ass. VWW
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Old 07-25-2005, 12:34 PM   #87
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well, i am the kind of liberal that believes we should leave other people alone to do what they want, including not having to be bothered or shot as their country is invaded. Unless there's a clear issue of public safety of course, ie, keeping morons from injuring themselves in the same way that the vet puts one of those funny cones on your cat to keep it from eating its own intestines. even if many cats should be encouraged to eat their own intestines.
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Old 07-25-2005, 12:50 PM   #88
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So Dems = Liberals???? What about Zoelle Miller?
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Old 07-25-2005, 12:56 PM   #89
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Whoa a minute -- Now that you guys have involved, blamed and insulted half the people on the planet, how about a little bad publicity for the brain dead nitwits that caused a big enough problem that the city fathers thought a step like this was necessary? Or are you and they the same?
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Old 07-25-2005, 01:05 PM   #90
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"You are either with us or you are with the terrorists" W.. i.e. there is no gray only black(blue) and white(red) in W country...
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