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Old 05-23-2005, 10:15 AM   #51
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Yes, I think it's up to the seller. But that was only one in the very long list of cash purchases for new vehicles.



3 years later Airport Yamaha in Inglewood Ca. allowed me to pay cash on a new '86 YZ490. $2,100.00 out the door. I think the sales manager pocketed the $$$.



He rewarded me by fouling up the vehicle code number on the DMV paperwork, that eventually got the bike a license plate.
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Old 05-23-2005, 11:30 AM   #52
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I'm baffled?? Why not give them a personal check for whatever as a deposit, get the firm out the door price and return shortly with a Credit Union check? Assuming you are as serious as you say.



One of the ex sales types probably nailed it: you were pegged as a tire kicking time waster and a bulls&^%%er. Which does not mean that you are - just that you were misjudged. It does happen, you know.



By the way, have you asked around re service department performance? After all, that is where the rubber meets the road unless you can handle it all yourself.



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Old 05-23-2005, 12:47 PM   #53
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in the car dealership world, when we would get a down payment, there was better comission( substantial) for the sales person. I never really understood that....but that is how the greedy bastids operate
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Old 05-23-2005, 01:28 PM   #54
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I live in San Francisco where there are two Yamaha dealers, both of which want full boat for anything you want to buy.

Back in '02, I decided I wanted a new R1, so I went to my closest downtown location and offered cash on the barrelhead if they'd give me the bike for $10,200 OTD. "Ha-Ha," they said, "..but let's sit down and talk."

We "talked," and after sitting down with the salesman, the salesmanager and someone else who chimed in, the lowest I could get them was $10,500 OTD. I told them to forget it.

One week later, I located a dealer in L.A. who was only too happy to sell me the bike for 10K even OTD, and who would ship it up to me for $150 additional.

Two months later, the SF dealer was still leaving me voice mail messages, telling me, "How about $10,300?" It was to laugh.
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Old 05-23-2005, 01:43 PM   #55
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Would you whippersnappers quit horsein' around; some of us are tryin to jitterbug over here...
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Old 05-23-2005, 03:24 PM   #56
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My point is that it's never been explained to me nicely from the perspective of the dealer. If a dealer told me that he would give me a better deal if I financed it or paid cash vs. purchasing with a credit card, it would be a TOTALLY different scenario. Because motorcycles are selling well now, most dealers can give you the stink eye and a smart-ass remark instead of explaining the situation in an attempt to bargain (unless you are buying two or three-year old Triumph Daytonas I buy things with credit cards and pay off my balances immediately because it's easy, convenient, and it keeps my credit score high.
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Old 05-23-2005, 03:32 PM   #57
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I bought a Busa on a mastercard to ease the paperwork. Got a great deal and offered the dealer to pay the 2% extra for the convenience. Everyone was happy!
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Old 05-23-2005, 03:37 PM   #58
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A new Busa eh. I'm jealous. When others have critiqued the shape of the Busa, I wondered what in the hell they were thinking. I find the organic shape to be very pleasing in an art deco, Luigi Colani sort of way. I've always thought it would be cool to own one. Not for the top speed, but for the generous torque available to squirt normal sized people like us through traffic. Let me know if you find the ergonomics comfortable for longer rides. BTW, what color did you get? VWW
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Old 05-23-2005, 04:16 PM   #59
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Got the gunmetal gray limited edition. The color looks fantastic. After a short 100 mile jaunt on Saturday, I don't think I'd change a thing. Seat is flat and comfy and the bars aren't too low. The pegs are a bit high, but they are rearward, so leg room isn't too bad. There is plenty of room to stretch out and move around. Seemed most comfortable at 85 to 90. Definitely a bullet train. I can't imagine what full throttle will be like.....at least for another couple weeks!
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Old 05-23-2005, 08:01 PM   #60
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Sounds like they want to make some profit off of the financing also. I wonder what will happen when someone wants to pay with a check or cash?



If the motorbike your interested in at that dealership is the last of it kind, I would go back and negotiage financing. If there still building them go to the next dealership. Take your pre-approval letter with you.
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